Randall,

I fully agree. You're right, that even the simplest things in this continuum of convergence are difficult to explain to people. I use 'shock factor' to get their attention and then draw them deeper into the message from there. This is the presentations I show businesses to introduce them to 'futuring' and generate a desire to know more....it's just a hook:

http://www.hyperadvance.com/Futuring/Futuring.swf

It really floors people to find out that many of these things aren't 'coming,' but they are already here(!). I've found that this generates a strong desire for more information.

But again, my goal isn't to show them singularity, but to help them see what they are going to have to do to cope and successfully navigate the future. If it doesn't come home to 'what do I need to do?' there's no sense telling them anything. And those that think they need to do nothing are way off. Every person is going to play a part in this transition, or we'll simply implode or self-destruct and not get there.

Kind Regards,

Bruce LaDuke
Managing Director

Instant Innovation, LLC
Indianapolis, IN
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.hyperadvance.com




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From: Randall Randall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [singularity] Convincing non-techie skeptics that the Singularity isn't total bunk
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 12:41:34 -0400

On Sep 25, 2006, at 10:05 PM, Bruce LaDuke wrote:

We're not looking into singularity yet, but the convergence has already started. Consider that the molecular economy has the potential to bring total social upheaval in its own right, without singularity.

What you're speaking of *is* singularity, just not by the on-this-list
generally expected means.  Someone can have no expectation that
superhuman intelligence is easy enough to do without trial and error,
and still expect singularity through merely molecular manufacturing and
computing power.

Even this type of singularity is really difficult to explain to people,
though, and we already have a close analogue to this: software.


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