Then what is doing the computing of whatever is doing
the computing? And so on. Turtles all the way down.

 - Tom

--- Matt Mahoney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> --- Jeff Rose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Matt Mahoney wrote:
> > > --- Tom McCabe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 
> > >> Human senses, while crude, are good enough to
> detect a
> > >> wholesale rearrangement of a large majority of
> the
> > >> matter in the solar system.
> > > 
> > > A technology this advanced could also reprogram
> your neurons to make you
> > > believe whatever it wanted.  There is no way you
> could detect this.
> > 
> > Although that might be the case for some
> technology of the future 
> > (protein manipulating nano-bots), it seems that
> unless you want to 
> > create a religion based on these kinds of beliefs
> you really can't go 
> > very far with them.  What would the logic of being
> an advanced race that 
> > hides itself from those it finds on other planets
> anyway?
> 
> Who says it is hiding?  What do you think a
> singularity would look like?
> 
> Doesn't the fact that the universe exists at all
> suggest that there is a
> computation?  What is doing the computing?
> 
> 
> -- Matt Mahoney, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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