Sure and there's a deterministic formula that explains everything.

What's the algorithm that tells me what to do with my investment portfolio on the stockmarket right now - Buy, Sell or Hold? What's the algorithm that tells you how much time to devote to your work tonight, and how much to your kids?

And if there is one or a set, why do you keep changing your mind, and oscillating about that and so many other decisions? And what's the algorithm that tells the character in Closer how many times to oscillate when offered a cigarette..."No... yes... no... fuckit no... Ok... no I'm giving them up... Yes.." Five, six, seven times?

What's the algorithm that can tell any agent how to deal with a situation that it has never encountered before, and the algorithm couldn't possibly have known about beforehand? Like a new form of investment - in landbank funds, say? Or how to deal with a new form of geopolitics like the war on terror? Or the millions of new forms that our dynamic social and natural environment are continually taking, and were totally unpredictable beforehand?

Screw the algorithms. Why not try some nondeterministic programming, and let the agent work things out through trial and error? The way we actually are programmed? Is Wei Pang into something loosely like that?


----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Mahoney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 3:02 AM
Subject: Re: [singularity] Why do you think your AGI design will work?



--- Mike Tintner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

There is a difference between your version: "achieving goals" which can be
done, if I understand you, by algorithms - and my goal-SEEKING, which is
done by all animals, and can't be done by algorithms alone. It involves
finding your way as distinct from just following the way set by programmed
rules.

There is an algorithm.  We just don't know what it is.


-- Matt Mahoney, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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