--- Eugen Leitl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, May 14, 2007 at 08:21:45PM -0700, Tom McCabe > wrote: > > > Hmmm, this is true. However, if these techniques > were > > powerful enough to design new, useful AI > algorithms, > > why is writing algorithms almost universally done > by > > programmers instead of supercomputers, despite the > > fact that programmers only work twelve hours a day > and > > have to get paid? > > A supercomputer has a price tag of several M$ and > has > a yearly burn rate in the same ballpark. These days, > you can hire many experts for that budget.
So, we actually have a working supercomputer that can design algorithms as efficiently as a computer scientist? What's the name of the software? > Secondly, if #1 at TOP 500 is about a realtime mouse > equivalent (no, I don't want to hear any "but > they're > doing it wrong" blahblah), how much would you pay a > rodent? A rodent cannot do much that is useful economically. The idea behind the rodent simulation isn't to put the real rodents out of work- it's to study the rodent's behavior in a sandbox environment. > Thirdly, there are bootstrap issues. You need to > spend > a lot of brute-force evolution, until you evolve > enough > to be able to evolve. What? Please explain. > Fourthly, if you can't think of a thing to do with a > lot > of computational resources for AI, don't assume the > rest of us can't. I'm sure there's something you could do with more computational resources- it's just not the *limiting factor* for developing AGI. Limited computing power is not the *primary* reason we don't yet have a working AGI, because even if we had infinite computing power we'd still have no AGI software to run on it. In the same vein, more wood certainly helps a fire burn, but a lack of wood wasn't the reason it took us thousands of years to learn how to harness fire. > -- > Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org";>leitl</a> > http://leitl.org > ______________________________________________________________ > ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com > http://postbiota.org > 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 > 8B29 F6BE > > ----- > This list is sponsored by AGIRI: > http://www.agiri.org/email > To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: > http://v2.listbox.com/member/?&; > ____________________________________________________________________________________Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/ ----- This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?member_id=4007604&user_secret=8eb45b07
