I have to applaud this comment, and it's general tenor.

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> Every speculation on this board about the nature of future AGI's has been 
> pure fantasy. Even those which try to dress themselves up in some semblance 
> of scientific reasoning. All this speculation, for example, about the 
> friendliness and emotions of future AGI's has been non-sense - and often 
> from surprisingly intelligent people. 
> 
> Why? Because until we have a machine that even begins to qualify as an AGI - 
> that has the LEAST higher adaptivity - until IOW AGI's EXIST- we can't begin 
> seriously to predict how they will evolve, let alone whether they will "take 
> off." And until we've seen a machine that actually has functioning emotions 
> and what purpose they serve, ditto we can't predict their future emotions. 
> 
> So how can you cure yourself if you have this apparently incorrigible need 
> to produce speculative fantasies with no scientific basis in reality 
> whatsoever? 
> 
> I suggest : first speculate about the following: 
> 
> what will be the next stage of HUMAN evolution? What will be the next 
> significant advance in the form of the human species - as significant, say, 
> as the advance from apes, or - ok - some earlier form like Neanderthals? 
> 
> Hey, if you are prepared to speculate about fabulous future AGI's, 
> predicting that relatively small evolutionary advance shouldn't be too hard. 
> But I suggest that if you do think about future human evolution your mind 
> will start clamming up. Why? Because you will have a sense of physical/ 
> evolutionary constraints (unlike AGI where people seem to have zero sense of 
> technological constraints), - an implicit recognition that any future human 
> form will have to evolve from the present form - and to make predictions, 
> you will have to explain how. And you will know that anything you say may 
> only serve to make an ass of yourself. So any prediction you make will have 
> to have SOME basis in reality and not just in science fiction. The same 
> should be true here. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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