On Nov 30, 2007 11:11 AM, Matt Mahoney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How can we design AI so that it won't wipe out all DNA based life, possibly
> this century?
>
> That is the wrong question.  I was reading
> http://sl4.org/wiki/SoYouWantToBeASeedAIProgrammer and realized that (1) I am
> not smart enough to be on their team and (2) even if SIAI does assemble a team
> of the world's smartest scientists with IQs of 200+, how are they going to
> compete with a Jupiter brain with an IQ of 10^39?  Recursive self improvement
> is a necessarily evolutionary algorithm.

See http://www.overcomingbias.com/2007/11/no-evolution-fo.html.

>  It doesn't matter what the starting
> conditions are.  All that ultimately matters is the fitness function.

This is precisely why evolutionary methods aren't safe. Also see
http://www.overcomingbias.com/2007/11/conjuring-an-ev.html

> The goals of SIAI are based on the assumption that unfriendly AI is bad.  I
> question that.  "Good" and "bad" are not intrinsic properties of matter.
> Wiping out the human race is "bad" because evolution selects animals for a
> survival instinct for themselves and the species.  Is the extinction of the
> dinosaurs bad?  The answer depends on whether you ask a human or a dinosaur.
> If a godlike intelligence thinks that wiping out all organic life is good,
> then its opinion is the only one that matters.

Uh, yes. I see this as a bad thing- I don't want everyone to get
killed. See http://www.overcomingbias.com/2007/11/terrible-optimi.html,
http://www.overcomingbias.com/2007/05/one_life_agains.html,
http://www.overcomingbias.com/2007/11/evolving-to-ext.html.

> If you don't want to give up your position at the top of the food chain, then
> don't build AI.  But that won't happen, because evolution is smarter than you
> are.

This isn't true: see
http://www.overcomingbias.com/2007/11/the-wonder-of-e.html,
http://www.overcomingbias.com/2007/11/natural-selecti.html,
http://www.overcomingbias.com/2007/11/an-alien-god.html,
http://www.overcomingbias.com/2007/11/evolutions-are-.html.

> I expressed my views in more detail in
> http://www.mattmahoney.net/singularity.html
> Comments?
>
>
> -- Matt Mahoney, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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