Hi Natasha

After discussions with you and others in 2005, I created a revised
version of the essay,
which may not address all your complaints, but hopefully addressed some of them.

http://www.goertzel.org/Chapter12_aug16_05.pdf

However I would be quite interested in further critiques of the 2005
version, because
the book in which is was published is going to be reissued in 2008 and
my coauthor
and I are planning to rework the chapter anyway.

thanks
Ben

On Jan 20, 2008 1:51 PM, Natasha Vita-More <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  At 06:06 AM 1/20/2008, Mike Tintner wrote:
>
>
> Sorry if you've all read this:
>
>  http://www.goertzel.org/benzine/extropians.htm
>
>  But I found it a v. well written sympathetic critique of extropianism &
> highly recommend it. What do people think of its call for a "humanist
> transhumanism"?
>  I found Ben's essay to contain a certain bias which detracts from its
> substance.  If Ben would like to debate key assumptions his essay claims, I
> available. Otherwise, if anyone is interested in key points which I belive
> are narrowly-focused and/or misleading, I'll post them.
>
>  Natasha
>
>  Natasha Vita-More PhD Candidate,  Planetary Collegium - CAiiA, situated in
> the Faculty of Technology, School of Computing, Communications and
> Electronics, University of Plymouth, UK Transhumanist Arts & Culture
> Thinking About the Future
>
>  If you draw a circle in the sand and study only what's inside the circle,
> then that is a closed-system perspective. If you study what is inside the
> circle and everything outside the circle, then that is an open system
> perspective. - Buckminster Fuller
>
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