Victor Kueh wrote:

> Dear Gaurav,
>
>  Hi. I'm still waiting for Jonathan for the confirmation
> on whether we need the loop back (in green) back to the success
> state.

yo, I think we need a final word on this soon :-\

>
>
> >
> > What the STD seems to suggest is that though the server has retransmitted 6 times
> > (and that's all it can retransmit) it should not affect state transition to
> > Completed state until 32 s have elapsed. This is inline with the fact that the
> > server must retain state info. until 32 s after having sent the first definitive
> > response. So time taken for 7 transmissions and the duration for which state
> > info. is retained are disjoint activities.
>
>         Anyway, I forgot to add in my previous email that in rfc2543bis01,
> in section 10.1.2, it is mentioned that
>         ' the 32s window is given y the maximum retransmission duration of
>           200-class responses using the default timers,.... '
>
> This statement is however not present anymore in bis02. So guess we need
> confirmation again from Jonathan on this.
>
>     Actually one more question that came out of my mind last night when I
> was going through SIP papers again. In Henning's slide presentation on SIP
> page 32 (last updated August 2000), it is mentioned that for SIP INVITE
> reliability, the request is retransmitted after 0.5,1,2,4,4,4,4
> seconds. Also in the paper in IPTel2000 'Predicting Internet Telephony
> CallSetup Delay' by Tony Eyers and Henning (page 4), it is mentioned that
> an INVITE message is retransmitted until te first provisional response is
> received, first after 500ms, then again after one additional second, then
> two seconds and finally every four seconds'. Aren't both statements
> incorrect (if I may say so), since I always thought that the
> retransmission for SIP INVITE (according to my understanding from
> rfc2543bis02) goes like this (0.5 + 1 + 2 + 4 + 8 + 16 = 31.5s). Please
> correct me if I'm wrong.

If that's what the slides say I suspect they are not in sync with the RFC2543bis(-02)
draft.

-Gaurav

>
>
> Thanks
>
> Victor

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