I am putting this on the SIP list because it has a bis-05 issue.

I think the bis-04 definition of a "call" is the correct one. A call
includes all dialogs in a session invited by a common source, and they would
have the same Call-ID. Bis-05 should be corrected. Or was there a specific
reason for changing the definition?

(-:bob

Robert F. Penfield
Chief Software Architect
Acme Packet, Inc.
130 New Boston Street
Woburn, MA 01801
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Radu Ionescu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 3:35 PM
Subject: [Sip-implementors] Are we allowed to use same Call-ID for multiple
dialogs for the purpose of a non based MCU multiparty conference?


>
>
> Bis05 does not seem to make any difference between Call and CallLeg
>
> Call: A call is an informal term that refers to a dialog between peers,
> generally set up for the purposes of a multimedia conversation.
>
> Call leg: Another name for a dialog.
>
> Dialog: A dialog is a peer-to-peer SIP relationship between a Various
> Authors [Page 13]  Internet Draft SIP October 26, 2001 UAC and UAS that
> persists for some time. A dialog is established by SIP messages, such as
> a 2xx response to an INVITE request. A dialog is identified by a call
> identifier, local address, and remote address. A dialog was formerly
> known as a call leg in RFC 2543.
>
>
>
> However in Bis04
>
> Call: A call consists of all participants in a session invited by a
> common source. A SIP call is identified by a globally unique call-id
> (Section 10.12), and is created when a user agent sends an INVITE
> request. This INVITE request may generate multiple acceptances, each of
> which are part of the same call (but different call legs). Furthermore,
> if a user is invited to the same multicast session by several people,
> each of these invitations will be a unique call. In a multiparty
> conference unit (MCU) based call-in conference, each participant uses a
> separate call to invite himself to the MCU.
>
> Call leg: A call leg is a pairwise signaling relationship between two
> SIP user agents. A call leg is established when a call invitation
> results in a successful response. It is identified by the combination of
> the Call-ID header field, the local address of the participant, and the
> remote address of the other participant. For the caller, the local
> address is the From field of the INVITE, and the remote address is the
> To field of the 200 class response. For the callee, the local address is
> the To field of the 200 class response to the INVITE, and the remote
> address is the From field of the INVITE. SIP URIs are compared according
> to Section 2.1, non-SIP URIs according to Section 2.2. Within the same
> Call-ID, requests with From A and To value B belong to the same call leg
> as the requests in the opposite direction, i.e., From B and To A.
>
>
>
>
> My question - are we allowed to use same Call-ID for multiple dialogs
> for the purpose of a non based MCU multiparty conference?
>
> Thank you,
> Radu
>
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