Nick,

What if such equipment (e.g. Cisco gateway) gets INVITE without SDP offer?
This means they have to send 200 (Ok) with SDP Offer and get the SDP Answer
in the ACK and the problem will happen again.

Another way to try and avoid this problem 
(which is quite common by the way, this is because many Equipment
manufacturers port to SIP systems that support H.323 and the H.323 solve
that with 
the openLogicalChannel model. So you can allow your self to support only one
codec at a time).

Anyway to try to avoid this: Try to always be the SDP answerer and not the
SDP offerer. Meaning always send INVITE with no SDP and answer on ACK.


Thanks,

Eran.

Eran Shen

Intel Corporation
Telecommunications and Embedded Group 
P.O Box 58, Migdal Tefen, Israel 
Tel: +972-4-9105020 
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Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] Two media type in SDP answer.


If UAS supports only one codec at a time, it should pick just one codec in
its answer, e.g. PCMA. But if the UAS supports both codecs and can switch
between them, it is allowed to include both codecs in its answer. Your
example is perfectly correct.

The difficulty is when the UAC supports either codec, but only one at a
time.
Some equipment (e.g. Cisco gateways) resolve the problem by sending a
*third*
session description in the ACK. This seems to be a perfectly good solution.
It would be convenient if this was allowed. Unfortunately in sip bis-05 it
has been declared a violation of the "offer/answer" model.

I can imagine two things the UAC can do to get around the restriction:

 (a) It could start with an OPTIONS to discover what codecs are supported,
     then INVITE the UAS, picking just a single codec. [This assumes that
     OPTIONS gives an answer consistent with INVITE.]

 (b) It could ACK the response then immediately re-INVITE it with just a
     single codec. [This delays the call startup, and if the ACK was lost
     it could get into an awkward "Retry-After" scenario.]

Neither solution is ideal...

 Nick


> Take a look to this scenario!
> 
> A UAC sends an INVITE containing SDP like the following:
> 
>      v=0
>      o=- 0 0 IN IP4 149.35.48.216
>      s=SIP Call
>      c=IN IP4 149.35.48.216
>      t=0 0
>      m=audio 5008 RTP/AVP 0 8 4 18
>      a=rtpmap:0 PCMU/8000
>      a=rtpmap:8 PCMA/8000
>      a=rtpmap:4 G723/8000
>      a=rtpmap:18 G729/8000
> 
> The UAS respond with an OK containing the following SDP:
>      
>      v=0
>      o=MxSIP 0 0 IN IP4 149.35.48.175
>      s=SIP Call
>      c=IN IP4 149.35.48.175
>      t=0 0
>      m=audio 5006 RTP/AVP 0 8
>      a=rtpmap:0 PCMU/8000
>      a=rtpmap:8 PCMA/8000
> 
> The UAC start to send RTP packet using PCMU codec.
> The UAS start to send RTP packet using PCMA codec.
> 
> Who are making a mistake?
> I think UAS have to respond supporting only one media (PCMU or PCMA).
> In this case it receive a SDP offer. In the answer UAS must select one of
the
> possible codec.
> Let me know your opinion!
> 
> Thanks 
> Lorenzo

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 AT&T Laboratories, Cambridge, England                 Fax: +44 1223 313542
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