When the text in bis-09 says "the update must be aborted and the request fails", its 
actually referring to both extending registration and deregistering. The behaviour for 
both cases is exactly the same. Expires: 0 is just another update, it just happens 
that time is 0 seconds.

Regards,
Hisham

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> Subject: [Sip-implementors] Handling out of order REGISTER requests
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> It has been specified that Callid and Cseq should be recorded for each
> binding.
> 
> I have a doubt in the algorithm, for handling out of sequence REGISTER
> requests, given in rfc2543bis-09
> (Please spare some time in going through the scenario)
> 
> De-Registration of Contacts:
> 
> 1) If the Callids doesn't match - go ahead and remove the binding.
> 
> 2) If the Callids match - remove the binding only if the Cseq of the
> de-registration request is greater than the one using which 
> the binding was
> last modified. And leave the binding as is if the CSeq is smaller.
> 
> Updating Contacts:
> 
> 1) If the Contact doesn't exist add one to the already existing list.
> 
> 2) If the Conatct already exists and Callids doesn't match - 
> update the
> Contact
> 
> 3) If the Contact already exists and Callids match - update 
> only if CSeq of
> the current request is greater and abort the updations 
> (request fails) if
> the CSeq is smaller.
> 
> Let us consider an example,
> 
> There are two contacts
> 
> Contact1  Callid1 5 (Cseq)
> Contact2  Callid2 2 (Cseq) - (Lets consider this contact was 
> registered
> after a crash,
>                               different boot cycle)
> 
> Now Registrar receives a REGSITER request.
> Callid - Callid2
> CSeq   - 1
> Conatact - *;expires=0
> 
> My understanding is
> 
> The Registrar would remove the Contact1 - mismatch in Callid 
> then would
> look into Contact2 will not be removed becuase of out of 
> order request.So
> this behaviour is fine.
> 
> The final list of Contacts after the request processing will be
> 
> Conact2 Callid2 2 (CSeq)
> 
> Had the request come in order the final list will be the same. Ao the
> algorithm works fine.
> 
> 
> Now let us consider updation.
> 
> Callid - Callid2
> CSeq   - 1
> Contact - Contact1 (with some changes)
> Contact - Contact2 (with some changes)
> 
> My understanding is
> 
> The Registrar would update Contact1.Incase of Contact2 there 
> will be a CSeq
> mismatch.So the entire transaction would be aborted (rfc says 
> that "updates
> aborted and request fails")   i.e changes made to Contact1 
> will also be
> rolled back.
> 
> Is my understanding of the entire scenario correct. If so,Why is the
> behaviour during updation and de-registration 
> different.During updation why
> should we rollback the changes made to Contact1.Had the 
> requests come in
> order final contact list would look like
> 
> Conatct1 Callid2 1 (CSeq)
> Conatct2 Callid2 2 (CSeq)
> 
> As the requests came out of sequence the final contact list looks like
> 
> Contact1 Callid1 5 (CSeq)
> Conatct2 Callid2 2 (CSeq) (which was not the one the end 
> point had desired
> for)
> 
> Could you please clarify and correct if I am wrong.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Vijay
> 
> 
> 
> 
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