Just on the side, besides the source port, the source ip address is also
unspecified in the SDP - so besides the src port being different, can
the source ip also be different ?

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To: "Toshihiko Maeda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP Description


>
> > Dear folks,
> >
> > I hope this is correct to talk,
> >
> > #1) I would like to know how to determine the source port by SDP
> > negotiation. My understanding is; clients can specify a port they
receive
> > RTP packet from by 'm' attribute.
> >
> > For example,
> >   A : INVITE ... m=audio 49170 RTP/AVP 0
> >   B : 200 OK ... m=audio 50123 RTP/AVP 0
> >
> > Then, <From A to B>
> >   - source port of A : ???
> >   - destination port of B : 50123
> >
> > <From B to A>
> >   - source port of B : ???
> >   - destination port of A : 49170
> >
> > In this case, how is each source port determined?  In addition, are they
> > able to specify the port clearly with SDP description?
> >
> Source port is not included in SDP offers/answers.
> A receiver can learn the source port of the sender
> when it receives the first RTP packet from the sender
> and no sooner than that. The 'recvfrom()' function
> can fill a transport address structure with the
> transport address of the sender (source_ip+source_port).
>
> NOTE:
> There is no constrait of sending on the port used for receiving.
>
> So, after SDP exchange (it is NOT a NEGOTIATION; a negotiation requires
> three steps) one cannot know the source port.
>
> > #2) How is information of 'packetization interval' exchanged in SDP?  I
> > guess 'a=ptime' attribute can be used for it.  Is this correct
> > understanding? If correct, then, how should the callee determine it if
> > there is no 'a=ptime' in description?
> 'a=ptime' may be used but, as you have noticed, it is not mandatory.
> The callee may try to include 'a=ptime' in its answer in order to
> force the caller to use the specified ptime when trasnmitting.
> But there is no warranty that the caller will interpret the
> ptime SDP line (again, ptime is not mandatory; it is suggested).
>
> Some of the RTP creators claim that a RTP implementation should
> be ptime independent. This is ok..this can be done. But if you
> want to know the RTP stream parameters (ptime/codec), in order to
> do bandwidth reservasion and QoS stuff, before the RTP flow starts...
> this cannot be easily done.
>
>
> So, they should consider ENFORCING ptime to MANDATORY, because assuring
> QoS is very important issue. And QoS for voice can be done if you can say
> 'I need X bytes at every Y miliseconds' BEFORE the RTP flow starts.
>
> If there are others who run into this problem, they should speak up.
>
> What is more important: being compatible with incomplete implementations
> or making a serious step towards QoS ?
>
>
> >
> > Any help is highly appreciated.
> >
> >Sincerely yours, Toshihiko
>
>
>
> Dan Firac,
> Software Engineer,
> Redline Communications,
> Romania.
>
> PS: should I add that H.245 really negotiates a fixed ptime?
>
> But I am sure there are good reasons not to this in SDP.
> If somebody knows them, please speak.
>
>
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