Hi,

We will log a bug in bugzilla about this. We will clarify this behaviour
in future versions of the spec.

Thanks,

Gonzalo

Arunachalam Venkatraman wrote:
> 
> Christer/Gonzalo
> Thanks to Christer for your explanation of the algorithm for generating a To
> tag.
> It does, however, conflict with the RFC2361 statements in 19.3 -
> 
>    When a tag is generated by a UA for insertion into a request or
>    response, it MUST be globally unique and cryptographically random
>    with at least 32 bits of randomness.
> 
>    Besides the requirement for global uniqueness, the algorithm for
>    generating a tag is implementation-specific.  Tags are helpful in
> 
> These statements do not suggest that the tag is to be a hash of request
> parameters. Several implementations simply add a 32 bit random quantity as
> the TO tag.
> 
> ????
> 
> Venkat
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christer Holmberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 9:25 AM
> To: Arunachalam Venkatraman
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] rfc3261 - Stateless UAS
> 
> Hi,
> 
> > In 8.2.7 Stateless UAS Behavior
> >
> >       o  A stateless UAS MUST ignore CANCEL requests.
> >
> >       o  To header tags MUST be generated for responses in a stateless
> >          manner - in a manner that will generate the same tag for the
> >          same request consistently.  For information on tag construction
> >          see Section 19.3.
> >
> > Questions:
> > 1. Why should a stateless UAS ignore CANCEL? I would expect it to respond
> > with a 481he CANCEL.
> >
> > 2. Why does a a stateless UAS need to generate the same TO tag? If the
> > request retransmits and the response has a different tag, it will only
> > appear (to the uac) to have forked.
> > Since the tag is just a gloablly random quantity and is not a hash of the
> > request parameters, it will not be the same.
> 
> I asked about this myself a while ago, because I thought it was a little
> confusing.
> 
> However, I got a clarification from Gonzalo Camarillo (to make sure I
> understood him correctly I CC this mail to him, so he can correct me if
> what
> I'm saying now is wrong :).
> 
> What he said was that you do need to calculate a hash to get the To tag, and
> part of the input to that hash has to be a random number. That random
> number,
> however, does not need to be random in the sense that it's unique every time
> you generate it. It shall be unique for your NODE, however, but you can use
> the same number every time you calculate the hash. You then have to choose
> the headers you use as input for the hash so that the result is different
> for
> each new INVITE, but the random number you use will be the same every time.
> So, in the case of request re-transmits, since you will use the same
> headers,
> and the same random number, for the hash calculation for each re-transmit of
> the request, you will get the same result every time.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Christer Holmberg
> Ericsson Finland

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