Paul:

Great! It is exactly what I wanted.

Now, the question to the group:

Is there any objection to include this exchange of messages in the H.323-side in 
response to the OPTION message sent to the SIP-side of the IWF (SIP-H.323 Interworking 
draft) as Paul has suggested below?

Best regards,

Radhika R. Roy
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From: Paul Long [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 12:07 PM
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Roy,

I don't know why there has been little general interest in a mechanism
completely divorced form a call to obtain an endpoint's capabilities. It
might be because very little time would be saved. Here are the two typical
dialogues for when the called endpoint and the calling endpoint,
respectively, do not have a feature needed by the other endpoint. How much
simpler can it get? :-)

        Setup(need feature X)->
        <- ReleaseComplete(neededFeatureNotSupported)

        Setup ->
        <- Alerting(feature Y)
        ReleaseComplete(neededFeatureNotSupported) ->

Paul

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Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 10:09 AM
To: Paul Long; Sip-Implementors (E-mail)
Subject: RE: [Sip-implementors] SIP2H323 IWF


Hi, Paul:

I am glad to see your note because all readers will know exactly how it
works.

BTW, I am curious to know: Why is there no such interest to have the
features to know capabilities before the call setup? If we could do so,
could we could not save some roundtrip delays during negotiations? Will it
not reduce the post-dial call setup time?

Best regards,

Radhika R. Roy
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-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Long [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 10:49 AM
To: Sip-Implementors (E-mail)
Subject: RE: [Sip-implementors] SIP2H323 IWF


Roy,

Indeed, there is no _exact_ equivalent in H.323, although "features" can be
signaled prior to call establishment (Connect) via FeatureDescriptors. If
either endpoint decides that the other endpoint doesn't support what it
needs, it can terminate call-setup before the call is established by sending
ReleaseComplete. Also, H.450.12 allows an endpoint to determine, typically
during call-setup, which supplementary services another endpoint supports.
Both mechanisms are optional and must be used within the context of a call,
however.

The ability to convey this information outside the context of a call has
been considered, but there hasn't been much, if any, interest in such a
feature. If only for SIP-H.323 interworking, however, maybe it's time to add
it to H.323. It should be pretty easy.

Paul

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Roy, Radhika
R, ALABS
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 10:12 AM
To: Jade Chen Yan; Sip-Implementors (E-mail)
Subject: RE: [Sip-implementors] SIP2H323 IWF


Hi, Jade:

OPTION is a powerful feature of SIP and there is no equivalent in H.323.
In H.323, one needs to set up calls to find out capabilities.

The draft IWF specification is yet to address this.

Best regards,

Radhika R. Roy
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jade Chen Yan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 4:25 AM
To: Sip-Implementors (E-mail)
Subject: [Sip-implementors] SIP2H323 IWF


hi, list

we know the H323's capability exchange requires an establishing call..

when a sip UA sends OPTION  to a  H323 terminal via a IWF,. what shall
we
do?how can we querry H323 capabilites without esatablishing a  call?


B.Regards,
Jade

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