-Natraj

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Natraj wrote,
 when provisional response received the retrans timer will be
 stopped (Ta). When INVITE sent out the Tb (= 64*T1) also would have
been
 started which will take care of transaction termination. When Tb fires
 the transaction moves to TERMINATED state...

 I guess the INVITE-Client Transaction section describes about this
topic
 in detail...

> Dear Natraj, in the RFC 3261, it is mentioned that after sending a
INVITE,
   Tb(= 64*T1) is started and the transaction will be in CALLING state,
   in this state if the timer Tb fires, it is treated as a REQUEST
TIMEOUT
and the
   transaction moved to TERMINATED state...

   but if a provisional response (101 to 199 ) is recevied in CALLING
state,
   then as per the RFC the transaction is moved to PROCEEDING state,
   in this state it is not mentioned about the action to be taken if  Tb
fires for a UA.

   Is there any standard way to handle the scenario..?
   I am just repeating the doubt of KrishnaKanth..

[ABN] OK It's not been mentioned how to handle Tb expiration in call
proceeding state fine. That is fine we can do the same thing what all
other processing done in case of calling state... in this case the
timers in server side do the similar (that of client side ) to release
the resources allocated for INVITE server transaction... because client
can't think of canceling the transaction even after the transaction
timeout...
Probably this would have mentioned in RFC.... (But still we can infer in
this way...)
---
Rgds
Nagaraj S

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>
> -Natraj
>
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> Kanth T
> Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 12:07 PM
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> Subject: [Sip-implementors] Some doubt on timers in transaction
>
> Hi,
>
> I have one basic doubt in timers in UAC transaction. When a UAC
> transaction sends an INVITE request and gets a provisional response it
> enters a "Proceeding" state. Here rfc3261 says that for a proxy it
> should restart TIMER C. But however for an endpoint, it does not say
> anything about whether a timer has to be restarted or not and also
does
> not say about the value of the timer. So i am assuming that the
endpoint
> can start a timer of its choice. Now when this timer times out or when
> TIMER C times out (and proxy does not want to restart this timer),
> should we change the transaction state to "TERMINATED" or should we
> still remain in "PROCEEDING" state?
>
> [ABN] when provisional response received the retrans timer will be
> stopped (Ta). When INVITE sent out the Tb (= 64*T1) also would have
been
> started which will take care of transaction termination. When Tb fires
> the transaction moves to TERMINATED state...
>
> I guess the INVITE-Client Transaction section describes about this
topic
> in detail...
>
> Rgds
>  Krishna
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