The conferencing mechanisms being developed in SIPPING/XCOM
explicitly include end system mixing.  There is a central
FOCUS, but not a central mixer.  This means that one element
(which could be one of the endpoints) has dialogs with all
participants, and sends out the SDP with all the streams.

For three way calls, a UA with an existing dialog could
REFER it's existing partner to the conference URI and INVITE
the 3rd party to the URI (assuming it doesn't need to
REFER itself).  The dialogs would have either multiple
unicast, a single multicast, or multiple multicast
descriptions in it.

Each UA would get two streams, either two streams in
one multicast, or two streams in unicast or multicast 
and mix them.

Brian

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vadim Lebedev
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 11:25 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Sip-implementors] 3 way conf calls

Hello, 

I need advice on SIP RFC's or drafts relevant to implementation of 3 way 
conf calls using distributed mixing.
The idea is �that each partcipant send his media stream to all other 
participants using multicast or multi-unicast. �And each participant does 
audio mixing locally.

All SIP RFCs and drafts seems to suggest centralised mixing by conference 
focus which redistribute the mixed stream to other participants...

I can imagine how the distributed mixing can be done using multicast (for 
example using re-Invites to parties with multicast address in the SDP), �but

how to do it in case of multi-unicast?

Suppose that endpoint A is in session with B and now B want to bring C into 
conference.
So B send an INVITE to C and establish a 2 way call...
Now B has to direct C to establish a call to A and inform somehow A and C
that 
the newly established call is actually a part of a conference, so that A and

C will be a) able to mix incoming streams and b) send data from local source

to two different destinations.


Any pointers or advices?

Thanks
Vadim

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