> > Sending a re-INVITE or UPDATE without 
> > a session-expires does not deactivate
> > the session timer.  It only indicates 
> > that the uac prefers not to keep it
> > active.  Proxies and/or the uas can 
> > still add the session-expires to keep
> > the functionality active.
> 
> Acknowledged that if proxies in the path 
> support and want to negotiate the timer 
> they can. But, if none do, then performing 
> such a refresh turns off the feature 
> 'no expiration' and no subsequent refreshes 
> will be performed. In this case I do not 
> distinguish "uac prefers not to 
> keep it active" to "turns the feature off".

The distinction is clearly indicated by draft-ietf-sip-session-timer-15.

Section 9 of draft-ietf-sip-session-timer-15 clearly indicates that the uas
can still choose to keep the timer functionality active even if the uac and
proxies did not include session-expires within the re-INVITE/UPDATE.

"If the incoming request contains a Supported header field with a value
'timer' but does not contain a Session-Expires header, the UAC indicated
support for timers, but did not request one.  The UAS may request a session
timer in the 2XX response by including a Session-Expires header field."


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