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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
> Of Brett Tate
> Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 5:14 PM
> To: 'Jeroen van Bemmel'
> Cc: 'sip-implementors'
> Subject: RE: [Sip-implementors] forking proxy indicating 
> thatearlydialogreleased
> 
> 
> > The problem you are describing appears to be
> > related to - but not the same as - HERFP.
> 
> I agree.  Unless a solution is desired before HERFP, 
> there isn't much reason for them to progress separately.
> 
> 
> > I am not aware of any draft that addresses this.
> 
> It is presented within Figure 10 of Jonathan's HERFP solution.
> 
> http://www.jdrosen.net/papers/draft-rosenberg-sip-unify-00.txt
> 
> 
> > My first thought is that the UA should be conservative in
> > presenting responses to the user, it could show "progress" 
> > but not popup a message saying "person X is answering...", 
> > to avoid getting the user's hopes up too high too early
> 
> I was mainly referring to interactions associated with 
> forking and early media.  However I see reason in preventing

Sorry.  "I see reason" should be "I see no reason".


> the caller from acting upon the various early dialogs.
> 
> A -- P -- X
>        -- Y
> 
> X returns 183 with SDP.  Y returns 180 without SDP.  
> The X leg is terminated by P or X.  It would be beneficial 
> if P could easily communicate this to A.
> 
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