I wonder how implementations understand the following from RFC 3265:

3.1.6.2. Confirmation of Subscription Creation/Refreshing

Upon successfully accepting or refreshing a subscription, notifiers
MUST send a NOTIFY message immediately to communicate the current
resource state to the subscriber.  This NOTIFY message is sent on the
same dialog as created by the SUBSCRIBE response.  If the resource
has no meaningful state at the time that the SUBSCRIBE message is
processed, this NOTIFY message MAY contain an empty or neutral body.
See section 3.2.2. for further details on NOTIFY message generation.

What is the definition of *immediately* here? Will implementations be
broken if the server will wait with the NOTIFY or subscribe refreshes?
The redundant refreshes that are required by RFC 3265 can create a serious
degradation in the performance of any SIP presence servers...

--Avshalom
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