Yes, I did check that thread (and the consensus seems to be in favor of STUN for TCP).
Since PING method suggested here is also a SIP method, I don't quite understand what it can do that OPTIONS cant. Regards, Anshuman -----Original Message----- From: Darshan Bildikar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 4:38 PM To: Anshuman Rawat; 'OmPrakashTripathi 70630'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu Subject: RE: [Sip-implementors] Determinine if a SIP device is alive. SIP-Pinging Check out the original SIP thread. They are talking about using STUN for UDP (for keep alive and update of NAT bindings) which will be about a 10% processing time as compared to a SIP request. (This will mean one port will handle two protocols) It started out with the suggestion that double CRLF be used for TCP. Not sure what the consensus is yet. -----Original Message----- From: Anshuman Rawat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 4:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; OmPrakashTripathi 70630; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu Subject: RE: [Sip-implementors] Determinine if a SIP device is alive. SIP-Pinging Will having a few less headers really have much affect in CPU time? Since it is a SIP message, UAS will have to do all the things necessary to process any SIP request. Another point, although a 200 OK response makes sense, but practically any response back to UAC would suggest that UAS is alive. Right? And in case the UAS is down, UAC will have to wait for a timeout to occur for it to know that UAS is down. This might take a while, coming back to original problem (which started this thread). Regards, Anshuman -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darshan Bildikar Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 2:18 PM To: 'OmPrakashTripathi 70630'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] Determinine if a SIP device is alive. SIP-Pinging OM... As you know per RFC 3261 OPTIONS is meant for exchanging capabilities (i.e. an options would be processed and answered like an INVITE) and not for heartbeat. In that sense PING would be like a stripped down version which would take up lesser CPU time. There's a thread going on in the SIP working group about the same issue although that also talks about refresh of NAT bindings. Check it out at http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sip/current/msg12806.html Darshan -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OmPrakashTripathi 70630 Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 12:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu' Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] Determinine if a SIP device is alive. SIP-Pinging Hi Frank, In this draft, you are suggesting to use a new PING method for the Heart Beat kinda considerations between the two UAs. Can you please tell us, in what sense is it different (or say advantageous) than the OPTIONS method, already suggested byt 3261. Thanks, Om.. ************************************************************************ **** ************** This email and its attachments contain confidential information from HUAWEI, which is intended only for the person or entity whose address is listed above. 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