> > > [ABN] it is very unlikely that both the proxies running the same
> > > software on diff machines/hardware would generate the same random
> > > numbers/time based random numbers since network delay could be
different
> > > for same messages reaching different proxies...
> >
> > If they EVER generate the same 'random' number I would say that it,
per
> > definition, wasn't random.
> >
> > [ABN] I don't think so, since the combination of various parameters
identify the
> dialog. if it was based on a single parameter this might lead to
conflicts... :)
> 
> Please, use the quote indentation function of your e-mail client.
> 
> You miss my point. I'm just saying that if two computers generate
random
> numbers that match each others then they ARE NOT RANDOM.
> Really-lousy-pseudo-random, ok, but they CAN'T be considered random,
per
> definition. If I say "pick a number between one and ten", and I know
you
> will say "five" then it isn't random when you say "five".
> 
[ABN] you are right, it's not a globally random number. 
See, the basic requirement is some parameters must be globally unique
(for example Call-ID) and random in nature, whereas most of the
parameters are random and unique within dialog/session/ something like
that (tags need not to be globally unique) which are Unique and random
for some duration only. 

Even if the same random number is generated by other entity, it's OK...
as long as combination of parameter conflicts with other entities
information, it's ok to have it. 

> /Fredrik

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