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Thanks,
Nataraju A B

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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mehul Jain
> Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 1:13 AM
> To: Romel Khan; sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu
> Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] Max Size of an INVITE message using
UDP
> 
> Thanks for the info, but that's the ideal case. In the real network
with
> gateways, routers and proxies in between, the situation changes. I
> wanted to know if there is a known max value in such a real network
> scenario.
> 
[ABN] in many cases, the path MTU is about 1400. Your SIP message could
be around 1300 bytes. But finally it depends on the path MTU size.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Romel Khan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 12:35 PM
> To: Mehul Jain; sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu
> Subject: RE: [Sip-implementors] Max Size of an INVITE message using
UDP
> 
> Based on the RFC quote, implementation must be able to accept sip
> message up to the maximum size allowed per UDP.
> UDP header can consume 8 bytes, IP header 20 bytes typically. So SIP
> messages could theoretically use 65,535-28 = 65,507 bytes in a
> hypothetical environment where there is no MTU constraint.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mehul
> Jain
> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 1:41 PM
> To: sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu
> Subject: [Sip-implementors] Max Size of an INVITE message using UDP
> 
> Am not clear what is the max supported size of SIP Request (INVITE)
sent
> using UDP.
> Went through the RFC 3261 (18.1.1 Sending Requests ).  MTU (1500 Bytes
> for Windows) looks to be the limiting factor for UDP, while later its
> written that implementations must support messages of the max datagram
> size (65,535 bytes).
> 
> Any pointers as to what is the accepted max length in the proxies,
> servers etc.
> Mehul.
> 
> If a request is within 200 bytes of the path MTU, or if it is larger
>    than 1300 bytes and the path MTU is unknown, the request MUST be
sent
>    using an RFC 2914 [43] congestion controlled transport protocol,
such
>    as TCP. If this causes a change in the transport protocol from the
>    one indicated in the top Via, the value in the top Via MUST be
>    changed.  This prevents fragmentation of messages over UDP and
>    provides congestion control for larger messages.  However,
>    implementations MUST be able to handle messages up to the maximum
>    datagram packet size.  For UDP, this size is 65,535 bytes,
including
>    IP and UDP headers.
> 
> The 200 byte "buffer" between the message size and the MTU
accommodates
> the fact that the response in SIP can be larger than the request. This
> happens due to the addition of Record-Route header field values to the
> responses to INVITE, for example. With the extra buffer, the response
> can be about 170 bytes larger than the request, and still not be
> fragmented on IPv4 (about 30 bytes is consumed by IP/UDP, assuming no
> IPSec). 1300 is chosen when path MTU is not known, based on the
> assumption of a 1500 byte Ethernet MTU.
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