Hi Stephen,

You are right you have said exactly what I meant. 

In my view the proxy should be lenient and proxy should increase the
Session Expires value equal to the Min-SE value (Min-SE value which ever
greater at UA or Proxy). 

Thanks,
Sunil

-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Paterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 4:05 PM
To: Jamkhandikar, Sunil; Poojan Tanna
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [Sip-implementors] Proxy Behaviour for Session Timer

Hi Sunil,

I'm not involved writing a proxy but it would also apply to a UA and I'd
be interested to know. I think Poojan has mis-understood your question.
Correct me if I'm wrong but it looks to me like you're asking what
happens if the Session-Expires header in the INVITE is smaller than the
Min-SE header in the INVITE, a slightly nonsensical situation but these
do happen. Nothing to do with what is configured at the proxy, just how
should the proxy (or UA in my case) respond in this situation.

My guess is it would be up to the proxy to decide how lenient it wants
to be. 

It could be kind and accept the request and use the Min-SE value or
higher or it could be strict and reject the request with something like 
400 "Bizarre Session-Expires/Min-SE combo". I don't have any supporting
evidence for either though so I'd be interested to know if there is a
hard and fast rule.

Cheers

Steve

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Jamkhandikar, Sunil
Sent: 16 November 2006 10:16
To: Poojan Tanna
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] Proxy Behaviour for Session Timer


Hi Poojan,

"If the value of the Session-Expires header field is lower than the 
value of the Min-SE header field."

This sentence means comparing session timer value received in request
with Min-SE configured in Proxy.

i.e Compare Session-Expires value 100 with Min-SE value configured at
proxy which is 90.

So the excerpt from 4028 doesn't hold correct for the above scenario.

Please correct if my understanding is wrong.

Thanks,
Sunil 



-----Original Message-----
From: Poojan Tanna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 2:15 PM
To: Jamkhandikar, Sunil
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] Proxy Behaviour for Session Timer

Hi Sunil,

Excerpt from RFC#4028, Section 8.1 is as follows:
"If the value of the Session-Expires header field is lower  than the 
value of the Min-SE header field (possibly because the proxy  increased 
the value of the Min-SE header field, as described below),  the proxy 
MUST increase the value of the Session-Expires header field to make it 
equal to Min-SE header field value. "

HTH,
Poojan.


Jamkhandikar, Sunil wrote:

> 
>Hello all,
> 
>How should Proxy behave in the scenario when it receives request with
>Session-Expires value smaller than Min-SE value in the request.
> 
>          UA                               Proxy
>                                             (Min-SE: 90)
>                                             (Session-Expires: 1800)  
>|                                   |           
>|---------INVITE--------------->|
>|Min-SE: 110                       |
>|Session-Expires: 100             |
>|                                   |
> 
>Thanks,
>Sunil
>
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