Acknowledged.  However, if we're talking about adding messaging
infrastructure to SIP, then the discussion is quite relevant here.  I
for one would vote for a simpler mechanism than multipart MIME XML blah
blah blah.  With regards to Keith's comments, I would love to sit down
and provide an alternative proposal but I just don't have the time to do
it.  With all due respect, I'll implement whatever the standards
committee comes up with, but I don't think its unreasonable for me or
anyone else to express concern about protocol that is obviously designed
by committee and obviously more complicated that it probably has to be.

FM


On Sat, 2007-04-28 at 15:23 -0700, Cullen Jennings wrote:
> There has been an incredible amount of work on this topic across many  
> standard organizations including the IETF. Before people start in on  
> discussing this in - I strongly suggest they might want to read some  
> of the requirements, uses cases, drafts, and mailing list discussions  
> in ECRIT and GEOPRIV. Please keep in mind the charters of ECRIT/ 
> GEOPRIV/SIP and take the discussion to the right working group.
> 
> 
> On Apr 28, 2007, at 2:35 AM, Juha Heinanen wrote:
> 
> > Jeroen van Bemmel writes:
> >
> >> Especially for the use case of emergency calls, would it not be  
> >> wise to
> >> select a much more simple approach/syntax, e.g.:
> >> Emergency-Location: lat=x; lon=y
> >>
> >> So no XML, no mime/multipart, as simple as possible (no complex  
> >> semantics,
> >> usage-rules etc), something to reduce the barrier of
> >> implementation/deployment, and to reduce the risk for interop issues?
> >
> > i fully agree with this.  we should follow KISS principle here.  it is
> > highly unlikely that sip ua vendors will even TRY implement such a
> > complex protocol.
> >
> > another reason why it will not get implemented is that sip uas don't
> > know where they are located.  gps does not work well indoors and  
> > mobile
> > operators at least here have refused to make public coordinates of  
> > their
> > base stations.
> >
> > -- juha
> >
> >
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