On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 4:48 AM, Vikram Chhibber
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Raj, let me get this right. Are we attempting for a new sip response
>  code which explicitly means "I am busy and please try another sip
>  node" or do we want to standardize how a sip node discovers or get to
>  know the alternate path for signaling in case the attempted one is not
>  available? In the later case, as i have mentioned, SIP already has
>  procedures.

No. We're not reinventing RFC 3263. I'll quote the statement made in
the first email in this thread:

"using SIP mechanisms to handle the situation where you want to send a call to a
first PSTN gateway, and if the gateway is busy (*not* if the target
phone is busy), retry using the second gateway."


>
>
>
>  On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Raj Jain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 2:11 AM, Vikram Chhibber
>  >  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >  > I am not very sure of the need for this as in my opinion SIP already
>  >  >  has ways to achieve this.
>  >
>  >  I disagree.
>  >
>  >
>  >  If the gateway sends say 503, the proxy can
>  >  >  try another gateway.
>  >
>  >  That's exactly the problem - let's "say" gateway sends 503, then proxy
>  >  "can" try another gateway. We need a *definitive* way to that tell the
>  >  proxy that there is congestion in the UAS or the downstream network
>  >  and a separate route must be attempted.
>  >
>  >
>  >  The gateway can itself redirect to the new
>  >  >  gateway by sending 302 response.
>  >
>  >  One gateway has no idea about other gateways.
>  >
>  >
>  >  >  The proxy can get multiple gateway addresses by some proprietary
>  >  >  routing mechanism or say from the redirect server sending 300 response
>  >  >  or DNS/ENUM procedures. Then, the proxy can try sequentially these
>  >  >  gateways if the gateway in question does not respond in time. The only
>  >  >  concern is that if the gateway being tried is down, the proxy need not
>  >  >  wait for 408 (T1*64 sec.) which I believe is too long. Here I see a
>  >  >  need for introducing some standard timer say "inter-fork-terminal"
>  >  >  timer.
>  >
>  >  I don't see what the above has to do with the discussion at hand.
>  >
>  >
>  >  >
>  >  > On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 11:02 PM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >  >  >    From: "Raj Jain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >    Definitely. We had to implement a proprietary SIP extension to 
> solve
>  >  >  >    this problem in our system.
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  Probably unavoidable...
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >    I'm also at the IETF. Perhaps we can meet and exchange notes.
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  I'm sitting in the BLISS session, toward the front.  Why don't we 
> meet
>  >  >  >  at the break after BLISS?  You can call me on my mobile at +1 617 
> 538 4943.
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  Dale
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >
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>  >
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