Thanks Vikram,
it was helpful for me.
using PUBLISH's life time (by reducing it) presence status gets updated in
considerably smaller time.

- Nitin Arora
Samsung India Software Centre, Noida


On 4/7/08, Vikram Chhibber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "PUBLISH with soft-state has a life time associated with it.". I am
> rephrasing this, PUBLISH always has life time associated with the
> soft-state it carries.
>
> On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Vikram Chhibber
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Nitin, PUBLISH with soft-state has a life time associated with it. If
> >  Server detects that there is expiration of this duration, it can
> >  assume the user is off-line. The problem is that the Server needs to
> >  wait for the publish expiration to conclude. The server may like to
> >  decrease the refresh rate to avoid long publish life-time. Other way
> >  is use some device audit technique like using OPTIONS, the server can
> >  pole the availability of the PUA.
> >
> >  You may like to couple registration with presence but again the
> >  registration has the same problem as PUBLISH as the client will not be
> >  able to un-register if it is not turned-off gracefully and this
> >  technique assumed that the registrar and presence-server are somehow
> >  able to communicate.
> >
> >  http://www.veraznetworks.com
> >  ~Vikram
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Nitin Arora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >  > Hi,
> >  >
> >  >  I am working on a presence client and using SER as presence server.
> >  >  I am using PUBLISH to publish my presence status (i.e. online,
> offline, away
> >  >  etc.) to the sever, and using SUBSCRIBE, NOTIFY to know the status
> of the
> >  >  UAs in my friend's list.
> >  >
> >  >  Now my problem is what if my UA is turned off and unable to send
> PUBLISH to
> >  >  update its presence status. is there any way to get rid of this
> problem.
> >  >
> >  >  one way I can think of is that Server will check for the
> registration status
> >  >  of that UA and on registration expiration it will automatically
> change the
> >  >  presence status to offline, but what if registration period is too
> long, its
> >  >  presence status will be kept like orphan on the proxy.
> >  >
> >  >  second way is that UA itself periodically update the status through
> PUBLISH
> >  >  but I don't know if any IETF standard defines or recommends this and
> if such
> >  >  rfc exists then Does SER (Proxy) supports it or not?
> >  >
> >  >  Please share any opinion.
> >  >
> >  >  Thanks & Regards
> >  >  Nitin Arora
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