Dear friends
Could please any body let me know the "Loop detection" in VoIP
is a client feature or server feature ?
thanks
tapan
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> 1. Remote Party ID (RPID) missing for Restricted call (caller ID
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> 2. Re: Number Portability, TEL URI and E.164-based SIP URI
> (Hadriel Kaplan)
> 3. Re: Remote Party ID (RPID) missing for Restricted call
> (caller ID hide) (I?aki Baz Castillo)
> 4. Re: Remote Party ID (RPID) missing for Restrictedcall (caller
> ID hide) (Brett Tate)
> 5. Re: Remote Party ID (RPID) missing for Restricted call
> (caller ID hide) (Rashid Shakil)
> 6. Re: Remote Party ID (RPID) missing for Restricted call
> (caller ID hide) (I?aki Baz Castillo)
> 7. Re: Remote Party ID (RPID) missing for Restricted call
> (caller ID hide) (Rashid Shakil)
> 8. Re: Remote Party ID (RPID) missing for Restricted call
> (caller ID hide) (I?aki Baz Castillo)
> 9. Re: Remote Party ID (RPID) missing for Restricted call
> (caller ID hide) (Rashid Shakil)
>
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> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:21:01 -0800 (PST)
> From: Rashid Shakil <[email protected]>
> Subject: [Sip-implementors] Remote Party ID (RPID) missing for
> Restricted call (caller ID hide)
> To: [email protected]
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
>
> Hello,
> ?
> Quick question please ...Can any SIP peer allowed to send an INVITE for
> restricted call without calling FROM information with no ?Remote Party ID?.
> If you look at the following information calling From number is restricted
> and ?Remote Party ID (RPID)? is missing as well therefore no way to find out
> where the call is originating from. Is this acceptable if yes can you please
> reference a draft where I can read this in detail ?
> ?
>
> ============================================================================
> INVITE sip:[email protected]:5060 SIP/2.0
> Via: SIP/2.0/UDP 6.6.19.72:5060
> ;branch=z9hG4bK61ed25f40d9a00534ea564d93dcad9e7-0
> From: "Anonymous" <sip:[email protected]:5060
> >;tag=824f5ba36d11a58f9978aa130ae1eefd
> To: <sip:[email protected]:5060>
> Call-ID: [email protected]
> CSeq: 34992 INVITE
> Max-Forwards: 70
> Allow:
> INVITE,ACK,CANCEL,BYE,REGISTER,REFER,INFO,SUBSCRIBE,NOTIFY,PRACK,OPTIONS
> Accept: application/sdp, application/isup, application/dtmf,
> application/dtmf-relay,? multipart/mixed
> Contact: "Anonymous" <sip:[email protected]:5060;transport=udp>
> Anonymity: uri
> Supported: timer,100rel
> Session-Expires: 1800
> Min-SE: 1800
> Content-Length: 287
> Content-Disposition: session; handling=required
> Content-Type: application/sdp
> ?
> v=0
> o=Sonus_UAC 145400 14540000 IN IP4 62.62.96.28
> s=SIP Media Capabilities
> c=IN IP4 62.62.96.28
> t=0 0
> m=audio 43996 RTP/AVP 0 18 100
> a=rtpmap:0 PCMU/8000
> a=rtpmap:18 G729/8000
> a=fmtp:18 annexb=no
> a=rtpmap:100 telephone-event/8000
> a=fmtp:100 0-15
> a=sendrecv
> a=maxptime:20
> ==================================================================
> ?
> Regards,
> ?
> Rashid Shakil
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 12:37:12 -0500
> From: Hadriel Kaplan <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] Number Portability, TEL URI and
> E.164-based SIP URI
> To: Victor Pascual ?vila <[email protected]>
> Cc: "[email protected]"
> <[email protected]>
> Message-ID: <e6c2e8958ba59a4fb960963d475f7ac31386335...@mail>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:sip-
> > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Victor Pascual
> > ?vila
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 6:27 PM, Hadriel Kaplan <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Virtually every network I know of which uses npdi, rn, and cic, use
> them
> > as uri-user params in a SIP URI. (i.e., your first example)
> >
> > Well, while unknown uri parameters should be ignored there are good
> > chances that one network element will strip them. OTOH, uri-user
> > parameters are likely to be untouched but it's not clear to me how
> > many parsers support uri-user parameters properly.
>
> More than could handle a TEL URI, I would venture. :)
>
> -hadriel
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:43:41 +0100
> From: I?aki Baz Castillo <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] Remote Party ID (RPID) missing for
> Restricted call (caller ID hide)
> To: [email protected]
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
>
> El Martes, 16 de Diciembre de 2008, Rashid Shakil escribi?:
> > Quick question please ...Can any SIP peer allowed to send an INVITE for
> > restricted call without calling FROM information with no ?Remote Party
> ID?.
> > If you look at the following information calling From number is
> restricted
> > and ?Remote Party ID (RPID)? is missing as well therefore no way to find
> > out where the call is originating from. Is this acceptable if yes can you
> > please reference a draft where I can read this in detail ?
>
> The question is:
>
> Acceptablefor who? for a trusted carrier? for a SIP provider? for a final
> client?
>
> --
> I?aki Baz Castillo
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 12:48:34 -0500
> From: "Brett Tate" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] Remote Party ID (RPID) missing for
> Restrictedcall (caller ID hide)
> To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>
> Message-ID:
> <
> bbe61d1553d8a34f812ff87377b2935f061f3...@atl1vexc020.usdom003.tco.tc>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> I'm not exactly sure what you seeking. RFC 3261 discusses
> "Anonymous". Privacy is also discussed within RFC 3323 and RFC 3325.
>
> Remote-Party-ID is defined within an expired draft which never became an
> RFC.
>
> Any device can send a valid SIP message to another device; however the
> receiver based upon RFCs and services can decide how to handle the request.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected]
> > [mailto:[email protected]] On
> > Behalf Of Rashid Shakil
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 12:21 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: [Sip-implementors] Remote Party ID (RPID) missing
> > for Restrictedcall (caller ID hide)
> >
> > Hello,
> > ?
> > Quick question please ...Can any SIP peer allowed to send an
> > INVITE for restricted call without calling FROM information
> > with no "Remote Party ID". If you look at the following
> > information calling From number is restricted and "Remote
> > Party ID (RPID)" is missing as well therefore no way to find
> > out where the call is originating from. Is this acceptable if
> > yes can you please reference a draft where I can read this in detail ?
> > ?
> > ==============================================================
> > ==============
> > INVITE sip:[email protected]:5060 SIP/2.0
> > Via: SIP/2.0/UDP
> > 6.6.19.72:5060;branch=z9hG4bK61ed25f40d9a00534ea564d93dcad9e7-0
> > From: "Anonymous"
> > <sip:[email protected]:5060>;tag=824f5ba36d11a58f9978aa130ae1eefd
> > To: <sip:[email protected]:5060>
> > Call-ID: [email protected]
> > CSeq: 34992 INVITE
> > Max-Forwards: 70
> > Allow:
> > INVITE,ACK,CANCEL,BYE,REGISTER,REFER,INFO,SUBSCRIBE,NOTIFY,PRA
> > CK,OPTIONS
> > Accept: application/sdp, application/isup, application/dtmf,
> > application/dtmf-relay,? multipart/mixed
> > Contact: "Anonymous" <sip:[email protected]:5060;transport=udp>
> > Anonymity: uri
> > Supported: timer,100rel
> > Session-Expires: 1800
> > Min-SE: 1800
> > Content-Length: 287
> > Content-Disposition: session; handling=required
> > Content-Type: application/sdp
> > ?
> > v=0
> > o=Sonus_UAC 145400 14540000 IN IP4 62.62.96.28 s=SIP Media
> > Capabilities c=IN IP4 62.62.96.28 t=0 0 m=audio 43996 RTP/AVP
> > 0 18 100 a=rtpmap:0 PCMU/8000
> > a=rtpmap:18 G729/8000
> > a=fmtp:18 annexb=no
> > a=rtpmap:100 telephone-event/8000
> > a=fmtp:100 0-15
> > a=sendrecv
> > a=maxptime:20
> > ==================================================================
> > ?
> > Regards,
> > ?
> > Rashid Shakil
> >
> >
> >
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 10:18:29 -0800 (PST)
> From: Rashid Shakil <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] Remote Party ID (RPID) missing for
> Restricted call (caller ID hide)
> To: [email protected], I?aki Baz Castillo
> <[email protected]>
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> Thanks for the prmpt response. My question was for a SIP provider and
> also?what are the?industry standard requirements for this?
> --- On Tue, 12/16/08, I?aki Baz Castillo <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> From: I?aki Baz Castillo <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] Remote Party ID (RPID) missing for
> Restricted call (caller ID hide)
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 12:43 PM
>
> El Martes, 16 de Diciembre de 2008, Rashid Shakil escribi?:
> > Quick question please ...Can any SIP peer allowed to send an INVITE for
> > restricted call without calling FROM information with no ?Remote Party
> ID?.
> > If you look at the following information calling From number is
> restricted
> > and ?Remote Party ID (RPID)? is missing as well therefore no way to
> find
> > out where the call is originating from. Is this acceptable if yes can you
> > please reference a draft where I can read this in detail ?
>
> The question is:
>
> Acceptablefor who? for a trusted carrier? for a SIP provider? for a final
> client?
>
> --
> I?aki Baz Castillo
>
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> Sip-implementors mailing list
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>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:20:25 +0100
> From: I?aki Baz Castillo <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] Remote Party ID (RPID) missing for
> Restricted call (caller ID hide)
> To: [email protected]
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> El Martes, 16 de Diciembre de 2008, Rashid Shakil escribi?:
> > Thanks for the prmpt response. My question was for a SIP provider and
> > also?what are the?industry standard requirements for this?
>
> Do you receive this INVITE from a local client of your provider? or from a
> carrier?
>
> --
> I?aki Baz Castillo
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 10:32:18 -0800 (PST)
> From: Rashid Shakil <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] Remote Party ID (RPID) missing for
> Restricted call (caller ID hide)
> To: [email protected], I?aki Baz Castillo
> <[email protected]>
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> I received the call from a SIP provider and my voice-mail platform
> rejecting the call. I received the call via SIP from my service provider
> (wholesale VOIP provider) and PSTN to SIP conversion happens at carrier's
> soft switch. Carrier is saying that they are not receiving calling FROM
> information on SS7 side therefore they are not adding it when they handed
> the call to me.
> ?
> I am wondering for restricted calls carrier have to send "CALLING FROM"
> information (like RPID with Privacy=Full) or not or my switch is being too
> picky to reject these calls ?
> ?
>
>
> --- On Tue, 12/16/08, I?aki Baz Castillo <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> From: I?aki Baz Castillo <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] Remote Party ID (RPID) missing for
> Restricted call (caller ID hide)
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 1:20 PM
>
> El Martes, 16 de Diciembre de 2008, Rashid Shakil escribi?:
> > Thanks for the prmpt response. My question was for a SIP provider and
> > also?what are the?industry standard requirements for this?
>
> Do you receive this INVITE from a local client of your provider? or from a
> carrier?
>
> --
> I?aki Baz Castillo
>
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:55:07 +0100
> From: I?aki Baz Castillo <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] Remote Party ID (RPID) missing for
> Restricted call (caller ID hide)
> To: [email protected]
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> El Martes, 16 de Diciembre de 2008, Rashid Shakil escribi?:
> > I am wondering for restricted calls carrier have to send "CALLING FROM"
> > information (like RPID with Privacy=Full) or not or my switch is being
> too
> > picky to reject these calls ?
>
> CallerID information should be sent by the carriers which route the call,
> even
> if the caller asked for privacy to his provider (so the last carrier should
> take off the RPID/PAI header and show "Anonymous" From to the called).
>
> The point here is why the wholesale VOIP provider is not adding RPID/PAI
> header.
>
> --
> I?aki Baz Castillo
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 12:03:09 -0800 (PST)
> From: Rashid Shakil <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] Remote Party ID (RPID) missing for
> Restricted call (caller ID hide)
> To: [email protected], I?aki Baz Castillo
> <[email protected]>
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
>
> ????? Thanks ...That's what I am trying to figure out with the carrier. Can
> you refer me a document\standard where this behavior drafted ?
>
>
> --- On Tue, 12/16/08, I?aki Baz Castillo <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> From: I?aki Baz Castillo <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] Remote Party ID (RPID) missing for
> Restricted call (caller ID hide)
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 2:55 PM
>
> El Martes, 16 de Diciembre de 2008, Rashid Shakil escribi?:
> > I am wondering for restricted calls carrier have to send "CALLING
> FROM"
> > information (like RPID with Privacy=Full) or not or my switch is being
> too
> > picky to reject these calls ?
>
> CallerID information should be sent by the carriers which route the call,
> even
> if the caller asked for privacy to his provider (so the last carrier should
> take off the RPID/PAI header and show "Anonymous" From to the
> called).
>
> The point here is why the wholesale VOIP provider is not adding RPID/PAI
> header.
>
> --
> I?aki Baz Castillo
>
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