Dear friends,

              Is there any RFC for SIP-ALG ?

Thanks
Tapan

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>   4. Re: Privacy values (I?aki Baz Castillo)
>   5. Re: Privacy values (Neelakantan Balasubramanian)
>   6. Re: Privacy values (I?aki Baz Castillo)
>   7. Re: Privacy values (Pandurangan R S)
>   8.  When 408 for reINVITE,   should UAC try to send BYE out or
>      simply clean up the local resources? (hanifa.mohammed)
>   9.  When register refresh receives 408,      should UAC terminate all
>      active calls? (hanifa.mohammed)
>  10. Re: When 408 for reINVITE,        should UAC try to send BYE out or
>      simply clean up the local resources? (I?aki Baz Castillo)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 10:51:29 -0600
> From: Robert Sparks <[email protected]>
> Subject: [Sip-implementors] Registration for SIPit 24 is open
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 12:00:45 -0500
> From: "Dale Worley" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] Regarding RFC 3263
> To: I?aki Baz Castillo <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected]
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> On Tue, 2009-03-03 at 11:34 +0100, I?aki Baz Castillo wrote:
> > 2009/3/3 sarvpriya <[email protected]>:
> > > hello,
> > > I am currently implementing RFC 3263. My SIP application only supports
> UDP.
> > > I want to know that while sending outgoing requests or responses, if it
> > > fails then alternate address needs to be tried. Can you please give
> > > definition of this "fails"
> >
> > > 1) it could be transport error ( vat kind of transport error for UDP)
> >
> > Yes.
>
> In particular, you could receive an ICMP Port Unreachable message.
>
> > > 3) similarly while sending in dialog request say info, if I dnt get
> reply to
> > > info, then shud i contact alternate ip addresses?
> >
> > No, when you send an in-dialog request the destination is the
> > remote-target (the other endpoint "Contact" header URI). That URI
> > contains a definitive location, i.e:
> > - sip:[email protected] <sip%[email protected]>    ->    UDP 1.2.3.4:5060
> > - sip:[email protected]:6666;transport=TCP    ->    TCP 1.2.3.4:6666
> > - sip:[email protected]:5082;transport=UDP    ->    UDP 1.2.3.4:5082
> >
> > In all these cases there is not (and there cannot be) an alternative
> > address, since the peer you are speaking with has, usually, just one
> > contact address.
>
> However, Contact and Route URIs can contain host names rather than IP
> addresses, and a SIP element is required to handle these correctly.  (In
> particular, GRUUs will *always* contain host names.)  Many phones handle
> this situation correctly; ones that do not should be avoided.
>
> The addresses in Via headers can also contain host names, although very
> few phones handle them correctly.  This is quite a problem, as it makes
> it difficult for one SIP proxy to take over for another during a dialog.
>
> Dale
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 23:51:10 +0100
> From: I?aki Baz Castillo <[email protected]>
> Subject: [Sip-implementors] Privacy values
> To: [email protected]
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="utf-8"
>
> Hi, RFC  3325 just mentions the "id" [1] value for Privacy header, but
> according to RFC 3323 there are various types of privacy an user can
> request
>
> Where could i read more about them? Are they really useful? Are they really
> implemented?
>
> Thanks.
>
> [1] http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3325#section-9.3
>
> --
> I?aki Baz Castillo
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 23:58:02 +0100
> From: I?aki Baz Castillo <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] Privacy values
> To: [email protected]
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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>
> El Martes, 3 de Marzo de 2009, I?aki Baz Castillo escribi?:
> > Hi, RFC  3325 just mentions the "id" [1] value for Privacy header, but
> > according to RFC 3323 there are various types of privacy an user can
> > request
>
> Update: RFC 3325 also mentions "Privacy: none" (the same as the no
> existance
> of Privacy header).
>
>
> --
> I?aki Baz Castillo
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 14:58:48 -0800
> From: Neelakantan Balasubramanian <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] Privacy values
> To: I?aki Baz Castillo <[email protected]>,
>        "[email protected]"
>        <[email protected]>
> Message-ID:
>        <[email protected]>
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> See below.
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:sip-
> > [email protected]] On Behalf Of I?aki Baz
> > Castillo
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 4:51 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: [Sip-implementors] Privacy values
> >
> > Hi, RFC  3325 just mentions the "id" [1] value for Privacy header, but
> > according to RFC 3323 there are various types of privacy an user can
> > request
> >
> [Neel]
> I noticed "user" in RFC 5079.  RFC 4244 provides "history".
>
> > Where could i read more about them? Are they really useful? Are they
> > really
> > implemented?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > [1] http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3325#section-9.3
> >
> > --
> > I?aki Baz Castillo
> >
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 00:01:25 +0100
> From: I?aki Baz Castillo <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] Privacy values
> To: [email protected]
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="utf-8"
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> El Martes, 3 de Marzo de 2009, Neelakantan Balasubramanian escribi?:
> > See below.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [email protected] [mailto:sip-
> > > [email protected]] On Behalf Of I?aki Baz
> > > Castillo
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 4:51 PM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: [Sip-implementors] Privacy values
> > >
> > > Hi, RFC  3325 just mentions the "id" [1] value for Privacy header, but
> > > according to RFC 3323 there are various types of privacy an user can
> > > request
> >
> > [Neel]
> > I noticed "user" in RFC 5079.  RFC 4244 provides "history".
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> I?aki Baz Castillo
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 09:13:47 +0530
> From: Pandurangan R S <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] Privacy values
> To: I?aki Baz Castillo <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected]
> Message-ID:
>        <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> http://www.iana.org/assignments/sip-priv-values
>
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 4:21 AM, I?aki Baz Castillo <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hi, RFC ?3325 just mentions the "id" [1] value for Privacy header, but
> > according to RFC 3323 there are various types of privacy an user can
> request
> >
> > Where could i read more about them? Are they really useful? Are they
> really
> > implemented?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > [1] http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3325#section-9.3
> >
> > --
> > I?aki Baz Castillo
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > https://lists.cs.columbia.edu/cucslists/listinfo/sip-implementors
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 20:01:09 +0530
> From: "hanifa.mohammed" <[email protected]>
> Subject: [Sip-implementors]  When 408 for reINVITE,     should UAC try to
>        send BYE out or simply clean up the local       resources?
> To: <[email protected]>
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Hi all,
>
> an excerpt from rfc 3261:
>  if the response for a request within a dialog is a 481 (Call/Transaction
> Does Not Exist) or a 408 (Request Timeout), the UAC SHOULD terminate the
> dialog. A UAC SHOULD also terminate a dialog if no response at all is
> received for the request (the client transaction would inform the TU about
> the timeout.) For INVITE initiated dialogs, terminating the dialog consists
> of sending a BYE.
>
> Is it necessary to send a BYE request out to the network? Bcoz, it is
> obvious that it will also get the same resp. cant UAC simply
>
> clean the local resource and inform the user that the dialog is closed.
>
> Or BYE is needed for the intermediate stateful proxies to clear the call
> context? If s, cant the proxies clear their context on
>
> receiving 481 or 408 for the in-dialog request?
>
>
> Best Regards,
> Mohammed Hanifa
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Pandurangan R S
>  To: I?aki Baz Castillo
>  Cc: [email protected]
>  Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:13 AM
>  Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] Privacy values
>
>
>  http://www.iana.org/assignments/sip-priv-values
>
>  On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 4:21 AM, I?aki Baz Castillo <[email protected]> wrote:
>  > Hi, RFC 3325 just mentions the "id" [1] value for Privacy header, but
>  > according to RFC 3323 there are various types of privacy an user can
> request
>  >
>  > Where could i read more about them? Are they really useful? Are they
> really
>  > implemented?
>  >
>  > Thanks.
>  >
>  > [1] http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3325#section-9.3
>  >
>  > --
>  > I?aki Baz Castillo
>  >
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> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 20:10:19 +0530
> From: "hanifa.mohammed" <[email protected]>
> Subject: [Sip-implementors]  When register refresh receives 408,
>        should UAC terminate all active calls?
> To: <[email protected]>
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Hi all,
>
>    Normally, UAC refreshes at half interval of the expires value. i.e. for
> every half an hr if
>    the expires value in 200 is 1 hr/
>
>    When register refresh receives 408,
>        - should UAC immed terminate all active session such as call,
> subscription, ...?
>        - should retry periodically till 1hr expires? Even after 1 hr, if
> there is no resp, then clean up all sessions.=20
>
>    Pl clarify.
>    Thanks in advance.
>
> Best Regards,
> Mohammed Hanifa
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 15:58:23 +0100
> From: I?aki Baz Castillo <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] When 408 for reINVITE,  should UAC try
>        to send BYE out or simply clean up the local    resources?
> Cc: [email protected]
> Message-ID:
>        <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> 2009/3/4 hanifa.mohammed <[email protected]>:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > an excerpt from rfc 3261:
> > ?if the response for a request within a dialog is a 481 (Call/Transaction
> Does Not Exist) or a 408 (Request Timeout), the UAC SHOULD terminate the
> dialog. A UAC SHOULD also terminate a dialog if no response at all is
> received for the request (the client transaction would inform the TU about
> the timeout.) For INVITE initiated dialogs, terminating the dialog consists
> of sending a BYE.
> >
> > Is it necessary to send a BYE request out to the network? Bcoz, it is
> obvious that it will also get the same resp. cant UAC simply clean the local
> resource and inform the user that the dialog is closed.
>
> There is nothing wrong in sending the BYE even if most probably it
> won't arrive to the UAS.
>
>
> > Or BYE is needed for the intermediate stateful proxies to clear the call
> context?
>
> A stateful proxy is not call stateful proxy, so it's not dialog aware.
> There are stateful proxies with some limited dialog support. In these
> cases, I think they shouldn't react on receiving 481 or 408 for an
> in-dialog request. They must remain being *proxies*.
> Also, if the UAC sends a BYE after the 408/481, these proxies will be
> happy and can clean the dialog context.
>
>
> > If so, cant the proxies clear their context on receiving 481 or 408 for
> the in-dialog request?
>
> They shouldn't, it's not a proxy task. Leave the proxies acting as proxies
> :)
>
>
> --
> I?aki Baz Castillo
> <[email protected]>
>
>
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