[On request, splitting my previous question in separate emails, 
 and this is the last.]

Greetings fellow SIPers!
 
I've got a few questions regarding how I should interpret a few things 
in rfc3263, and related text in 3261.

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Question 3.
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The annoying 503 Response and "Retry-After:"...
I have read the archive and the fairly new RFC on congestion-handling, 
but neither seems to clarify, or even mention that the text in 3261, 
(that is referred to in rfc5390) is completely self-contradicting, 
to me at least...
The discussion is always on how long you should blacklist, and wether
to use this for overload protection or not..

3261:
        If no Retry-After is given, the client MUST act as if it had 
>       received a 500 (Server Internal Error) response.
 
        A client (proxy or UAC) receiving a 503 (Service Unavailable)
        SHOULD attempt to forward the request to an alternate server.
        It SHOULD NOT forward any other requests to that server for the
>       duration specified in the Retry-After header field, if present.
 
To me, this says that any 503 response without R-A, is NOT a 503.
So how can the text in the next paragraph, say that if you receive any
kind 
of 503(even without Retry-After, since it says "if present") you SHOULD 
retry somewhere else??
 
And then we have 3263, which generically says "if you receive a 503, you

should retry the next dns-rr". But since I always see 3261 as the 
master-of-all-rules, I intepret this as you should ONLY perform this
retry,
 IF the 503 you just got, HAD a Retry-After. 
Since we've already defined that a 503 w/o R-A, is not, in fact, 
a 503 but a 500.....or have we? :-@
 
So. If my proxy receives a 503 without R-A, should I, according to
3261/3 
fetch the next RR and retry?
I'd be very interessted, and thankful for whatever feedback you folks
can provide. 
 
Thanks in advanced
  
Regards
Taisto Qvist
IP-Solutions AB



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