thx to all for the replies.

On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Huseyin ALTUN <[email protected]>wrote:

> Hello,
>
> G.729 and G.729 AnnexB are not mutually compatible with each other as seen
> from below link.
>
>
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk1077/technologies_tech_note09186a00800b6710.shtml
>
> These G.729 codec combinations interoperate:
> .         G.729 and G.729A
> .         G.729 and G.729
> .         G.729A and G.729A
> .         G.729 Annex-B and G.729A Annex-B
> .         G.729 Annex-B and G.729 Annex-B
> .         G.729A Annex-B and G.729A Annex-B
>
> (As seen, G.729 and G.729 Annex-B are not compatible since G.729 AnnexB has
> built-in VAD (Voice Activity Detection = Silence Surpression) that can not
> be disabled.)
>
>
>
> And IMO, UAS shouldn't reject the call, instead should return an answer
> (even if annexb=no is available).
>
>
> BUT, this will bring ANOTHER problem.  The UAC will send a CANCEL (there
> are few that are not sending) to terminate the call.  This is because offer
> and answer doesn't match. RFC 3261; section 13.2.1 describes how to create
> the INVITE request as well as offer and answer in a call on simply basis,
> section 13.2.2.4 describes the codec negotiation during call establishment.
>
>        13.2.1 Creating the Initial INVITE
>
>        .....
>        The UAC MUST treat the first session
>          description it receives as the answer, and MUST ignore any
>                session descriptions in subsequent responses to the initial
>                INVITE.
>
>
>        ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
>
>
>        13.2.2.4 2xx Responses
>
>        .....
>        If the offer in the 2xx response is not acceptable, the UAC core
> MUST generate a valid answer in the ACK and then send a BYE immediately.
>
>
>
> Thus, RFC mandates that if the codecs offered in each side of a call
> doesn't match, the request originator should immediately terminate the call.
> This either should be by sending CANCEL after receiving SIP 183 Session
> Progress or sending an ACK following with a BYE after receiving SIP 200 OK
> message.
>
> Hope, this will help you.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Huseyin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Iñaki Baz
> Castillo
> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 5:14 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] G729 Negotiation
>
> El Miércoles, 2 de Diciembre de 2009, Johnny Jaguar escribió:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > what is the correct way for an UA (only with G729a support) to answer to
> >  the following offer:
> >
> > Media Description, name and address (m): audio 53480 RTP/AVP 8 18 0
> >             Media Attribute (a): rtpmap:8 PCMA/8000
> >             Media Attribute (a): rtpmap:18 G729/8000
> >             Media Attribute (a): fmtp:18 annexb=yes
> >             Media Attribute (a): rtpmap:0 PCMU/8000
> >
> >
> > UA rejects the call. I think it shouldn't reject the call but should
> answer
> > with annexb=no. Is there a RFC describing this scenario?
>
> AFAIK G729a is fully compatible with G729b.
>
> --
> Iñaki Baz Castillo <[email protected]>
>
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