>Just to add to what others have already said, we looked into this within
>the SIP Parity AG of IMTC and concluded that while RFC 5939 is the
>correct standards compliant way to achieve best effort security,
>supporting the negotiation of crypto attributes using the RTP/AVP media
>profile is useful for interworking with implementations that have not
>yet added support for RFC 5939 to address this properly.

As one of the people behind best-effort-srtp
(http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kaplan-mmusic-best-effort-srtp-01) I
concur, and that's probably what they're trying to do.  The problem with
RFC 5939 (though I haven't looked at the final form) is that it's
complex to implement and perhaps even more so to test, and when
best-effort was written, we were a long way from RFC 5939 being done.
Plus, to a degree, best-effort was documenting and standardizing an
existing practice that people had independently decided was needed,
which was a small subset of what Capabilities can do.

>Cheers,
>Charles
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>[mailto:sip-implementors-
>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Alan Johnston
>> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 7:38 AM
>> To: Nenad Milidrag
>> Cc: Jean-Hugues Royer; [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] RTP/AVP with crypto attribute
>> 
>> ZRTP also permits best-effort encryption:  allowing SRTP to be used
>> with the standards RTP/AVP profile in the SDP:
>> 
>>      http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-zimmermann-avt-zrtp-22
>> 
>> - Alan -
>> 
>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 8:58 AM, Nenad Milidrag <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>> > Hi Jean-Hugues,
>> >
>> > There is also a draft
>> > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kaplan-mmusic-best-effort-srtp-01,
>that
>> > was interpreting SAVP as SRTP only while AVP in combination with
>crypto
>> > is used as "best-effort SRTP".
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Nenad
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: [email protected]
>> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
>> > Jean-Hugues Royer
>> > Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2011 1:35 PM
>> > To: [email protected]
>> > Subject: [Sip-implementors] RTP/AVP with crypto attribute
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > What is the recommended behavior when you receive a SDP offer with a
>> > RTP/AVP media protocol including a crypto attribute ?
>> >
>> > Ignore the media ?  Ignore the crypto attribute ?  Process it as a
>> > RTP/SAVP when SRTP is locally supported ? In that case answer with
>> > a RTP/AVP or change it to a RTP/SAVP ?
>> >
>> > Is there any document that actually restricts the use of a crypto
>> > attribute to a media with RTP/SAVP ? (RFC4568 doesn't)
>> >
>> > SNOM is one the several producers of such offers when they want to
>> > optionally offer SRTP.
>> >
>> > Their argument for not using two medias (RTP/AVP & RTP/SAVP) by
>> > default in the offer (as it should be) is that some proxies doesn't
>> > support multiples medias, are you aware of such proxies ?
>> >

-- 
Randell Jesup, Worldgate (developers of the Ojo videophone)
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