Thanks Joel, really appreciate it. 
 
Vivek.
 


From: Joel Gerber <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" 
<[email protected]> 
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 6:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] Content header : application/isup

Hello Vivek;

SIP-I is an ITU-T spec: ITU-T Recommendation Q.1912.5
SIP-T is an IETF Best Practice: RFC 3372

Section 5.3 Item 1 in RFC 3372 makes reference to a REL accompanying a BYE 
message, but as it's a best practice, it doesn't seem to go into great detail.

RFC 3398 might also be a good reference, and that's actually a Proposed 
Standard.

I believe the ITU-T SIP-I specification has the most details on encapsulated 
ISUP, I just don't have it on my computer right now.

I hope this helps;

Joel Gerber

From: Vivek Singla [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: December-13-12 4:44 PM
To: Joel Gerber; 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] Content header : application/isup

Thanks Paul, Joel,

I guess the best solution is not to discard the BYE.

Is there a specific RFC I can mention, while talking to the developers in this 
case and explaining them
why it's against the rules in RFC to discard the BYE?

Vivek.




From: Joel Gerber 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
To: 
"[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>"
 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] Content header : application/isup

The BYE message should include an ISUP REL message, and the BYE should receive 
a 200 OK response with an ISUP RLC message.

That said; I know certain vendors don't generate all of the standard ISUP 
messages, even though they say they are following the SIP-I/SIP-T standards. 
Metaswitch is notorious for only sending the IAM in the INVITE, and doesn't 
give any other ISUP message bodies through the progression of the dialog. YMMV 
:)

Joel Gerber
Eastlink

-----Original Message-----
From: 
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[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
 On Behalf Of Paul Kyzivat
Sent: December-13-12 3:04 PM
To: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] Content header : application/isup

On 12/13/12 2:02 PM, Vivek Singla wrote:
> Hi,
> I have a call flow where the Invite is sent using content header : 
> application/isup.
> In the message body IAM is present.
> I get back 180 ringing, 183 call progress and also 200ok with the ISUP 
> messages in the message body.
>
> But when I get the BYE, this BYE does not have the ISUP message body.
> This message does not have any content header.
>
> My server discards this BYE message.
>
> Is that ok?

No, it is not ok to discard the BYE message, assuming it is otherwise correctly 
formed. Regardless of the presence or absence of the ISUP body it still 
terminates the dialog. If you discard it then you will be maintaining the 
dialog when the other end thinks it is gone.

I'm not knowledgeable about the isup extensions. So I don't know if something 
bad has been done by not including an ISUP body in the BYE.
But in any case you should take appropriate action to end the ISUP connection, 
because there is no longer any SIP connection.

    Thanks,
    Paul

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