SBC is a rather arbitrary term referring to a bunch of different functions. 
Typically an SBC is a B2BUA, RTP media-proxy, stateful firewall, QoS/policer, 
NAT traverser and a transcoder, but this is not always the case. Some vendors 
stick on the name SBC, and it just performs SIP ALG functionality. 

I typically just call them B2BUAs, and will specify whether they have 
additional functionality, because the term SBC really doesn't mean anything 
when there is no standard as to what functionality a device needs to support in 
order to earn the name.

SBCs typically follow a bunch of separate standards, without implementing any 
"magic" outside of what a certain standard allows. IE: In RFC 3261, there is no 
mandate on what a B2BUA has to do when it translates signals from a dialog 
facing one endpoint to a dialog facing another. Removing/Adding/Changing header 
values is both allowed, and maybe even expected.

Joel Gerber
Network Specialist
Network Operations
Eastlink
E: joel.ger...@corp.eastlink.ca T: 519.786.1241

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Kyzivat [mailto:pkyzi...@alum.mit.edu] 
Sent: July-18-13 11:11 AM
To: ikuzar RABE
Cc: sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu
Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] RTP flow's route follows SIP flow's route ...

Then stop calling it a *proxy*!
It is an SBC.

        Thanks,
        Paul

On 7/18/13 6:28 AM, ikuzar RABE wrote:
> Ok thanks for your responses,
> There is indeed an RTP proxy within the sip proxy... and it works as 
> you described above.
>
>
> 2013/7/17 Paul Kyzivat <pkyzi...@alum.mit.edu 
> <mailto:pkyzi...@alum.mit.edu>>
>
>     As others have noted, for this to happen the "proxy" (proxies?) needs to
>     modify the SDP to cause this to happen. If it does this it has violated
>     the rules for a proxy. Devices that do this are typically called Session
>     Border Controllers. It is very common. There are both advantages and
>     disadvantages to doing this.
>
>              Thanks,
>              Paul
>
>     On 7/17/13 5:29 AM, ikuzar RABE wrote:
>      > Hi all,
>      >
>      > I saw a RTP flow which is not directly established between UAC
>     and UAS but
>      > goes through a SIP proxy ...
>      >
>      > Is there any information in SIP message exchange producing this
>     situation ?
>      >
>      > Thanks for your help,
>      >
>      > ikuzar
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