It is much more reasonable to expect the service-provider/enterprise to implement the location conveyance. They'd add the location in their proxies/B2BUAs/ALGs. For example, an enterprise building ALG could add its location before sending the call to an SP.

(Hah! Another obvious idea made un-patentable.)

In addition, it's the service provider that will likely perform SIP peering with a PSAP. In the US, that's the typical model in already. Service providers sometimes already know where their users are. Yes, yes, I know this isn't the main point of location-conveyance.

But besides all of this: we've got to get the PSAPs capable of reliably using the location provided in the call. The capability to send the location will be far simpler than actually having a PSAP that can accept and use it.






On Apr 28, 2007, at 5:19 AM, Jeroen van Bemmel wrote:


Especially for the use case of emergency calls, would it not be wise to
select a much more simple approach/syntax, e.g.:
Emergency-Location: lat=x; lon=y

The location-by-"reference" (i.e., provide a URI to a PIDF-LO instead of carrying the document itself) should do what you need here. Many UACs already have HTTP servers, which would be compatible with such a system, maintain end-to-end privacy requirements. Or the SUBSCRIBE- NOTIFY version of PIDF-LO retrieval could easily be implemented with a partial multipart-mime implementation, and it could work even through proxies.

On Apr 28, 2007, at 5:35 AM, Juha Heinanen wrote:

another reason why it will not get implemented is that sip uas don't
know where they are located. gps does not work well indoors and mobile operators at least here have refused to make public coordinates of their
base stations.

Other location-sensing technology may come along, now that there are good reasons for it.




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