On Apr 30, 2007, at 8:31 PM, James M. Polk wrote:


for whatever reason, a request has a PIDF-LO with city, street, street number, etc *but* not state or country. How does this get indicated in the new Geolocation-Error header field format?


The same way it does in the existing Warning header, I presume. I was not trying to make the new header do location verification.

this is exactly the example that was given to me two IETFs ago when you (and others) wanted the XML blob as a message body part in the 424 response (with the exact failure and the exact fields that are bad (for whatever reason)).

I had no problem with goin along with that message body in 424 idea, but I had a timing issue with "it ain't done yet, and it ain't even started yet, so how long is it gonna take to get there" wondering.

I put it into -06 and got a few comments that absolutely didn't like the idea, so I took it back out, leaving us with little exact info on what's bad in the request that Warning (and Reason) can't solve for in their current form.

To cite a slightly related example, we don't have a formal mechanism to specify exactly which part of an SDP description is broken, or to call out the syntax error in SIP messages by line number or precise description. I think of these more like compiler errors, which are also presented as (maybe) some generic label and plain text.

In general, such information isn't useful to machines, since they can't debug the problem by themselves, so if an implementation wants to be helpful, a simple

Geo-Error: "Missing <country>" <some-syntax-error-code>

is probably about as helpful as you can get. This type of error message is only useful to humans, after all.

Thus, I agree that no additional XML error reporting is necessary here.




but they aren't trustworthy domains, so the administrators don't want to give someone the answer if they don't already have it


That's presumably not a problem in our case.

Henning


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