Well, here are a couple of situations that people have repeatedly brought up at SIPits. (Keep in mind that I'm
passing this along, not championing any points).

1) Some still have to operate in an environment that has no DNS, even in the core. Their customers are demanding transport=tls to control the use of tls over one hop in this situation.

2) Some have indicated they operate in large enterprise-like networks, where the endpoint has an ephemeral address, one for which there's no way to populate NAPTR/SRVs to indicate a use of TLS when reaching that endpoint. Additionally, the endpoint has a cert (!). They are required to register a contact that causes them to be reached
     with TLS, and are using transport=tls to do so.

RjS

On May 31, 2007, at 10:58 AM, Dean Willis wrote:


A new version of the SIPS draft has been posted:

http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-sip-sips-04.txt

The author thinks this is ready for last call. I think that, given the below discussion, it probably is too. But there is one issue I'm worried about.

We know it doesn't fix everything, we're not sure it is possible to fix everything with SIPS, but we are committed to fixing what we can. So please don't bother to say it isn't worth the effort since it doesn't make SIPS perfect -- you might be right, but that alone is insufficient reason to block things. One step at a time. I'm sure we'll be taking further steps in this space.

Now, for te issue I'm worried about:

I have received some personal feedback from more than one credible source that the draft's direction on transport=tls is inconsistent with the real world and possibly not optimal. But so far, Juha has been the only one I've noticed trying to explain this issue "on the record", and one voice does not overbalance a quiet consensus. So I'd like to ask the rest of you (if any) who actually feel this way to step up to the plate and explain what you're talking about, because I don't get it and it looks like a bunch of the WG doesn't get it. Please! If you don't step up now, I'm probably going to make rude "raspberry" noises if you bring it up someplace like Chicago.


--
Dean (chair hat stapled to head so it doesn't blow off in the coming storm)


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