Hi, 

>You have an MGC that registers?
> 
>If so, it can avoid this problem by not using the new option 
>when registering. This is *optional* behavior.

Correct. My misstake.

Regards,

Christer





> Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF) wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > At least with existing MGCs you will have backward 
> compability issues.
> > 
> > MGCs normally route SIP-to-ISUP calls based on the 
> Request-URI, and if the Request-URI contains e.g. a sos 
> servicetype URN, or a 800 service number, the MGC will not be 
> able to route on those.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Christer
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Jonathan Rosenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: 13. kesäkuuta 2007 6:02
> >> To: IETF SIP List
> >> Subject: [Sip] UA Loose Routing Issue #1: Backwards compatibility
> >>
> >> I've recently revised my draft on UA loose routing. You 
> can pick it 
> >> up here:
> >> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-rosenberg-sip-ua-loo
> >> se-route-01.txt
> >>
> >> This draft is meant to fulfill one of our charter items:
> >> Feb 2008           Delivering request-URI and parameters 
> >> to UAS via proxy to
> >> IESG (PS)
> >>
> >> As folks may recall, the GRUU spec used to have these 
> things called 
> >> grids, which allowed a UA to add its own parameters to the GRUU 
> >> before handing it out. Several GRUU revisions back, this 
> function got 
> >> yanked because it was recognized that the problem was more general 
> >> than GRUU, and would be useful for AOR as well.
> >>
> >> Two IETFs back I presented this draft briefly during a SIP 
> session. 
> >> There was a lot of interest and people liked it architecturally, 
> >> however there were two open issues that needed to get 
> resolved. This 
> >> mail is meant to start discussion on one of them - backwards 
> >> compatibility.
> >>
> >> THe mechanism basically changes the way proxies handle requests. 
> >> Instead of rewriting the request URI for out-of-dialog requests, 
> >> they'll push a route header and leave the r-uri alone. This allows 
> >> the original R-URI and any parameters it contains to get 
> delivered to 
> >> the UAS.
> >>
> >> So, the main issue is, what kinds of backwards 
> compatibility problems 
> >> will this cause. The draft provides a basic mechanism whereby a UA 
> >> includes an option tag in the REGISTER, and the registrar 
> indicates 
> >> that it is using this mechanism or not. So we can negotiate this 
> >> between a UA and registrar easily. Now, the problem is with 
> >> intermediate proxies. If there is an edge proxy between the UA and 
> >> its registrar, it will now see requests targeted to the UA, which 
> >> contain a Route header beyond itself, even though it 
> thinks its the 
> >> edge proxy and the last point of contact before the UA. 
> Technically, 
> >> if this edge proxy is compliant to rfc3261 it would work. However, 
> >> the question is whether proxies in the wild would properly work in 
> >> this case.
> >>
> >> If folks can comment based on their own products, or their 
> >> experiences, on whether they think this would work, or 
> concerns they 
> >> have, that would be great. THere are solutions that would 
> allow us to 
> >> disable the mechanism when intermediate proxies don't 
> support it, but 
> >> they are more complex and I'd rather avoid it.
> >>
> >> THanks,
> >> Jonathan R.
> >> -- 
> >> Jonathan D. Rosenberg, Ph.D.                   600 Lanidex Plaza
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> >> 07054-2711
> >> Cisco Systems
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> >>
> >>
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