Yeah - stateless proxies have a similar admission policy problem for responses as they are defined in 3261. You can address that (I think) without requiring them to keep transaction state though (I think). It would involve something along the lines of providing bits to themselves that they see in the response that lets them know this response corresponds to a request they actually forwarded recently (it would require them to have a clock to reference, but they wouldn't have to
keep timers).

RjS

On Jun 28, 2007, at 5:56 AM, Paul Kyzivat wrote:

Robert,

I seem to recall from long ago that one reason for forwarding strays was to support restart or failover of a proxy, where internal state of the failed proxy is not preserved. As I recall, the expectation was that while things might not work as well as if the failure had not happened, the situation would be better than if these messages were not forwarded.

This is only a vague memory, so it may not be right. But if it is, won't the proposed changes break that? Does it matter?

Also, while I see some logic in not forwarding strays for the reasons stated in the draft, if that is a problem that needs to be solved, shouldn't stateless proxies also be banned?

        Paul

Robert Sparks wrote:
Everyone -
I've put together a proposal for addressing the spec bug captured at
http://bugs.sipit.net/show_bug.cgi?id=769
Please read through
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sparks-sip-invfix-00.txt
and comment.
RjS
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