>From the original mail:

> (Because this is security related we have agreed that SIP does the 
> requirements drafting and not SIPPING)
>

I did agree this with the SIPPING chairs before sending the mail out.

Keith 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric Burger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 9:32 PM
> To: IETF SIP
> Cc: DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
> Subject: Re: [Sip] Certificate authentication in SIP
> 
> Why not SIPPING, the home of requirements?
> 
> 
> On 6/25/07 6:40 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Sorry, I had missed this going by until someone pointed it out ...
> > 
> > Basically, I would support this work in SIP WG, which does 
> seem like 
> > the right place at least for requirements (can see where it 
> goes next from there).
> > 
> >> So can I hear opinions of the WG on:
> >> 
> >> -                whether this represents a problem space 
> that the working
> >> group
> >> should draft requirements on?
> > 
> > SIP WG seems like as good a place as any, at least for requirements.
> > 
> >> 
> >> -                whether the problem space exists but is 
> something slightly
> >> different, and if so what is that problem space?
> > 
> > Yes, the problem space exists.
> > 
> >> 
> >> -                whether there is a more general problem 
> that the security
> >> area
> >> should be addressing, rather than the SIP group addressing 
> something 
> >> specific?
> > 
> > Develop the *requirements* first, then ask this question.  A worthy 
> > question for this list would be whether the requirements 
> should expand 
> > to use cases beyond Registrar interactions (e.g to Invite, 
> > Subscribe/Notify, or to streaming uses, etc).  Of course, 
> the Security 
> > Area should be involved regardless, esp at solution time.
> > 
> >> 
> >> -                based on your answers to the first three 
> questions, whether
> >> this
> >> draft is essentially in the right direction to be adopted 
> as the WG 
> >> draft assuming we create the charter item, or whether we 
> need to seek 
> >> some other input draft?
> > 
> > I believe it is close, modulo wondering about expansion beyond 
> > Register as above.  (Could dicker over details...)
> > 
> >> 
> >> -                and finally, whether (assuming we go 
> ahead with this work)
> >> there
> >> is any work in any other IETF WG that we should take account of?
> > 
> > Dunno.   
> > 
> > -- Peter Blatherwick
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > 
> > From: DRAGE, Keith (Keith) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 9:58 AM
> > 
> > To: IETF SIP List
> > 
> > Subject: [Sip] Certificate authentication in SIP
> > 
> > (As WG chair)
> > 
> > 
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-dotson-sip-certificate-auth-
> > 03 
> > 
> <http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-dotson-sip-certificate-auth
> > -03>
> > .txt
> > 
> > Describes a set of requirements for:
> > 
> >    This document defines requirements for adding certificate
> >    authentication to the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP).  This
> >    document is being presented with the intention of providing clear
> >    requirements to any potential solutions specifying certificate
> >    authentication within SIP networks.  Supporting certificate
> >    authentication in SIP would provide strong authentication and
> >    increase the types of possible deployment scenarios.
> > 
> > (Before we go any further, please forget all about the solutions 
> > document - that comes later and we are not dealing with it now)
> > 
> > We need to decide whether there is support for a body of 
> work in this 
> > area, and therefore whether we should charter some 
> requirements work 
> > in the SIP WG.
> > 
> > (Because this is security related we have agreed that SIP does the 
> > requirements drafting and not SIPPING)
> > 
> > So can I hear opinions of the WG on:
> > 
> > -                whether this represents a problem space 
> that the working
> > group
> > should draft requirements on?
> > 
> > -                whether the problem space exists but is 
> something slightly
> > different, and if so what is that problem space?
> > 
> > -                whether there is a more general problem 
> that the security
> > area
> > should be addressing, rather than the SIP group addressing 
> something 
> > specific?
> > 
> > -                based on your answers to the first three 
> questions, whether
> > this
> > draft is essentially in the right direction to be adopted as the WG 
> > draft assuming we create the charter item, or whether we 
> need to seek 
> > some other input draft?
> > 
> > -                and finally, whether (assuming we go ahead 
> with this work)
> > there
> > is any work in any other IETF WG that we should take account of?
> > 
> > 
> > Regards
> > 
> > Keith
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Regards
> > 
> > Keith
> > 
> > 
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