That is the point - people have been saying, "I can negotiate INFO by using
Content-Type."  This is a tiny example where using Content-Type to negotiate
"INFO Packages" falls apart.


On 7/22/07 3:10 AM, "Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF)"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> 
> Why would I be expecting KPML, if I have only indicated that I support
> DTMF-over-INFO?
> 
> If I was to expect KPML, I would first need to establish a subscription for
> KPML (or, in our "controlled network", the subscription would be established
> by default, and I would know you are going to send KPML).
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Christer
> 
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Eric Burger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: 22. heinäkuuta 2007 4:41
>> To: Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF); IETF SIP
>> Subject: Re: [Sip] INFO and Content Negotiation
>> 
>> The point is that content type alone is not sufficient for
>> INFO negotiation.
>> You are a RFC 4722-aware device.  You advertise you accept a
>> DTMF payload type.  I am an INFO-aware device.  I see you
>> understand a DTMF payload, so I send it to you in an *INFO*
>> message.  You barf, because you were expecting KPML.
>> 
>> 
>> On 7/21/07 2:51 PM, "Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF)"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I don't really understand your issue here... Did you send the text
>>> using INFO, or something? ;)
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Christer
>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Eric Burger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> Sent: 20. heinäkuuta 2007 23:14
>>>> To: IETF SIP
>>>> Subject: [Sip] INFO and Content Negotiation
>>>> 
>>>> 12 second proof point of why content type doesn't work.
>>>> 
>>>> So here comes an INVITE.  I am an INFO-friendly UAS.  I
>> negotiate by
>>>> using Accept.
>>>> 
>>>> This INVITE has the line:
>>>> Accept: application/kpml-response+xml
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Wow!  This is great!  I know the UAC *wants* DTMF.  Why?
>>>> Because it accepts a DTMF content type.  Excellent - I can
>> now send
>>>> them DTMF.
>>>> 
>>>> The user enters a digit, and I send an INFO with type
>>>> application/kpml-response+xml.
>>>> 
>>>> UAC says, "What the heck was that?"
>>>> 
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