Eric Burger wrote:
Well, we are only sort-of munging MIME.  The default is always RENDER.
However, *what* is a render is an exercise for the protocol to specify.
That is the wiggle room for SIP to say "render means by-context."

What we do not have the wiggle room for is to say the default
content-disposition is something other than RENDER.

Well, we have *already* said that the default Content-Disposition is something other than "render" for certain Content-Types. E.g. for C-T of application/sdp the default disposition is "session". There are other special cases for some other content types as well.

Is that really kosher for MIME, or did we already do something bad?

In any case, what I was suggesting is that we spend some effort defining what "render" means for SIP.

        Paul

On 7/22/07 12:17 AM, "Paul Kyzivat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Eric Burger wrote:
I would offer this is where we can "add value" to MIME for SIP usage.  Note
that I do not say, "deviate from MIME."  I would suggest we NOT try to
deviate from MIME in any respect.
Oh MIME sage, your comment is inscrutable! :-)

I don't understand in this case where the line is between "adding value"
and "deviating".

If we try to ascribe some common meaning to "render" then I believe sip
is already violating it. If we have thus already "deviated" from MIME,
which takes precedence: correcting the deviation, or backward compatibility.

My assumption is that backward compatibility is more important.

        Paul

On 7/19/07 9:59 AM, "Paul Kyzivat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
I think we just have to grandfather the use of 'refer' in SIP, and
document that the usage in sip does not mean "render", but rather means
that the usage must be determined by other context - specifically the
type of message or response and the content type. IOW, 'render' in sip
can be thought of as a peculiar spelling for 'by-context'. It might be
helpful to give guidance for development of future specs about when
'render' should be used vs defining a new disposition.
[snip]


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