Marci. See below.
 

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        From: Eric Tremblay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
        Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 14:21
        To: Audet, Francois (SC100:3055)
        Cc: sip List
        Subject: draft-ietf-sip-sips-05 comments
        
        

        Salut Francois, 

        I had a look at draft-ietf-sip-sips-05 and have a few comments.
Apologies if some of these comments were already discussed.

        Section 3.2, the following paragraph: 
           Furthermore, consider the problem of using SIPS inside a
dialog.  If
           [EMAIL PROTECTED] sends a request to [EMAIL PROTECTED] using a SIPS 
Request-URI, then,
according
           to [RFC3261 <http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3261> ]/8.1.1.8,
"the Contact header field MUST contain a SIPS
           URI as well".  This means that [EMAIL PROTECTED], upon sending a new
Request within
           the dialog (e.g., a BYE or re-INVITE), will have to use a
SIPS URI.
           If there is no Record-Route entry, or if the last
Record-Route entry
           consist of a SIPS URI, this implies that [EMAIL PROTECTED] must 
understand
SIPS in
           the first place, and must also support TLS.  If the last
Record-Route
           entry however is a sip URI, then b would be able to send
requests
           without using TLS (but b would still have to be able to
handle SIPS
           schemes when parsing the message).  In either case, the
Request-URI
           in the request from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to B would be a SIPS URI. 

        According to 3261, the uri type found in the route is ignored if
the request-uri is sips: 

        "Independent of which URI is used as input to the procedures of
[4], if the 
         Request-URI specifies a SIPS resource, the UAC MUST follow the 
         procedures of [4] as if the input URI were a SIPS URI."
RFC3261, section 8.1.2 

        If my thinking is right, this possibly creates an odd situation
if the last hop proxy is a 2543 implementation that does not do loose
routing (do these still exist?). My take is that if the proxy is a loose
router and inserts a "sip" route, at the UA sending a request, the
request-uri is a "sips" URI, then TLS should be used. However, if the
proxy is not a loose router and inserts a "sip" route, then at the UA
sending a request, the request-URI will no longer be a "sips" URI but a
"sip" URI, thus allowing a different resolution mechanism. I wonder if
this is worth mentionning in the draft. 

My vote is that this is too arcane to discuss.  

        End of 3.2: 

         SIPS URIs can even be used in
           other protocols that allow for including SIPS URIs (e.g.,
HTML). 

        Since HTML is not really a protocol, I would suggest the
following sentence: 

         SIPS URIs can even be used in
           other protocols and documents that allow for including SIPS
URIs (e.g., HTML). 

O k. Will fix. 


        Section 3.4: 
           When [I-D.ietf-sip-outbound
<http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sip-sips-05#ref-I-D.ietf-sip-outb
ound> ] is used, a transport parameter in a
           REGISTER message would normally be ignored since the existing
        
        I guess you mean "a transport parameter in a Contact-URI of a
REGISTER message..."? 

Y es, but this paragraph is being removed from the current version. 


        Section 4.1.2: 

        If all the Contact header fields in a REGISTER are SIPS, a SIPS
AOR
           MUST be used by the UAC in the REGISTER. 

        Which AOR are we talking abou? I guess you mean here: "..., a
SIPS AOR MUST be used in the To header of the REGISTER". It is confusing
as there are two AORs in a REGISTER. The To and From, which can
potentially be different. Does this whole paragraph applies to both From
and To AORs?

Y es, to both. I'll fix. 


        Best Regards, 

        EricT 




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