Hadriel, I don't get your example.

You would only get a KPML subscription for calls that actually terminate
to 
the voicemail server. And I would imagine that MOST calls to a voicemail
server
would actually use DTMF and therefore require a subscription. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stucker, Brian (RICH1:AR00) 
> Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 21:16
> To: Hadriel Kaplan; 'Eric Burger'; Audet, Francois (SC100:3055)
> Cc: 'sip'
> Subject: RE: [Sip] INFO
> 
>  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Hadriel Kaplan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 3:22 PM
> > To: 'Eric Burger'; Audet, Francois (SC100:3055)
> > Cc: 'sip'
> > Subject: RE: [Sip] INFO
> > 
> > But there are cases where the KPML model is vastly greater 
> overhead.  
> > 
> > Consider a typical voicemail server.  For calls to the voicemail 
> > server to retrieve messages, KPML is probably good because you can 
> > define a digit map for the mailbox number and password which would 
> > reduce overall message counts.  But for calls to leave a voicemail 
> > (which I assume greatly outnumber those to retrieve them, but you 
> > would know more about that than I), KPML has to create a 
> subscription 
> > for every single call, just in case the caller happens to 
> press some 
> > optional dtmf that the voicemail app supports.  For each and every 
> > call, a subscription has to be routed and its state saved 
> by stateful 
> > proxies along the path to the UAs, even though only a small 
> fraction 
> > of the calls ever press a DTMF button.
> 
> Unless your voicemail users have a severe case of 
> obsessive-compulsive voicemailbox checking syndrome, and the 
> users aren't checking their mailboxes when they have no MWI 
> indication, the number of deposits is guaranteed to at least 
> equal, and certainly exceed the number of retrievals for any 
> non-trivial population of subscribers. Otherwise, you'd only 
> need space for one voicemail in your mailbox. The fact that I 
> doubt anyone has ever heard of such a ridiculous voicemail 
> limit seems to confirm my assumptions.
> 
> Regards,
> Brian
> 


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