On Aug 15, 2007, at 7:39 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The idea is simple, rather than having the CONNECT message establish a "tunnel" through a series of proxies, CONNECT is used to trade addressing information between the UAs that then signal each other directly. This proposal was made as modifications to the sipsec draft. The draft is available as a standalone and as a diff to the current sipsec draft at the following links. Comments are hoped for...

Frank, I'm not putting in an argument one way or the other about if the following is a good or bad idea but I thought you might find it interesting to consider either way. The CONNECT idea you have above works in environments where all the SIP proxy would do is blindly forward the messages - I have seen multiple SIP UA products that do something similar to what you are suggesting here by just using SOCKS and running SIP over that. I think it was primarily used by some financial companies that wanted any SIP traffic going in our out of the firewall to go through a SOCKS server. I've also heard people sagest running SIP over TURN to provide relays in places where a proxy was not needed.

Cullen <with my individual hat on>


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