Christer,

No, see RFC3261 8.1.1.4:

Note that when requests are retried after certain failure responses that 
solicit an amendment to a request (for
  example, a challenge for authentication), these retried requests are
  not considered new requests, and therefore do not need new Call-ID
  header fields; see Section 8.1.3.5.

Mid-dialog challenges should use the same from-tag + Call-ID, so although it seems allowed to start anew, IMHO it is better to keep them the same. The text could be more clear though (and should have some normative words).

Regarding from tags there is no explicit text, but 22.2 says:

When a UAC resubmits a request with its credentials after receiving a
  401 (Unauthorized) or 407 (Proxy Authentication Required) response,
  it MUST increment the CSeq header field value as it would normally
  when sending an updated request.

This hints at treating the challenge response as a mid-call request (although 
it may have no to-tag in case of an initial INVITE)

Regarding Dale's case below, this can only occur if UAS1 has a broken SIP 
implementation (F1, F5 and F13 are 3 independent transactions)

Regards,
Jeroen

Christer Holmberg wrote:
Hi,
Interesting. But I'm not certain I buy it. CSeqs only make sense within a dialog. F13 doesn't contain the To-tag abc, so it ought not be expected to use a valid CSeq for that dialog.

Correct.

And, the INVITEs shall contain different From-tag values (and Call-ID
values), so UAS 2 will be able to differentiate the dialogs based on
those parameters.

Regards,

Christer




A different issue here is that that F13 ought not go to UAS1 at all. But we treat it as a new transaction, and don't expect the proxy to maintain any history across transactions, so we don't have a way to prevent that.

There ought to be something in F11 that causes the request to go only to (in this case) UA2. (In general to whichever node generated the challenge, which might have been a proxy rather than a UA.)

        Paul

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was looking at a problem were were having with a phone and discovered the following interesting situation with PRACK
and INVITEs
that have to be resent with authentication.

Consider an INVITE that gets serially forked to two
destinations, the
first one doesn't answer and the second one demands authentication:

    UAC             Proxy           UAS 1           UAS 2

     |                |               |               |
F1   | INVITE CSeq 1  |               |               |
     |--------------->|               |               |
F2   |                | INVITE CSeq 1 |               |
     |                |-------------->|               |
F3   |                | 180 CSeq 1    |               |
     |                | to-tag abc    |               |
     |                |<--------------|               |
F4   | 180 CSeq 1     |               |               |
     | to-tag abc     |               |               |
     |<---------------|               |               |
F5   | PRACK CSeq 2   |               |               |
     | to-tag abc     |               |               |
     |------------------------------->|               |
F6   |                | 200 CSeq 2    |               |
     |                | to-tag abc    |               |
     |<-------------------------------|               |
     |                |               |               |
    ---------------------- delay ------------------------
     |                |               |               |
F7   |                | CANCEL CSq 1  |               |
     |                |-------------->|               |
F8   |                | 200 CANCEL    |               |
     |                |<--------------|               |
F9   |                | 487 CSeq 1    |               |
     |                | to-tag abc    |               |
     |                |<--------------|               |
F10  |                | INVITE CSeq 1 |               |
     |                |------------------------------>|
F11  |                |               | 407 CSeq 1    |
     |                |               | to-tag def    |
     |                |<------------------------------|
F12  | 407 CSeq 1     |               |               |
     | to-tag def     |               |               |
     |<---------------|               |               |
F13  | INVITE CSeq 2  |               |               |
     |--------------->|               |               |
F14  |                | INVITE CSeq 2 |               |
     |                |-------------->|               |
F15  |                | 500 CSeq 2    |               |
     |                | to-tag pqr    |               |
     |                |<--------------|               |
F16  | 500 CSeq 2     |               |               |
     | to-tag pqr     |               |               |
     |<---------------|               |               |
     |                |               |               |

Since the PRACK F5 is sent within a forked dialog, we don't
think of
it as using up CSeq number space in the space of out-of-dialog requests. So when it comes time to re-send the INVITE F13,
it's easy
to think that you can just use a CSeq one higher than the original INVITE F1. But transaction processing at UAS 1 is likely to notice that it's already seen CSeq 2 with that Call-Id. It looks like one must make sure that the re-sent INVITE has a CSeq higher
than has been
used in any derived dialog of the original INVITE.

Dale


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