Hi,

I have big issues with the keep-alive change in the -12 version.

Because, now the STUN keep-alives usage can't be applied between the UA
and outbound proxy, unless the registrar supports outbound.

I strongly think it should be possible to use STUN keep-alives for
"pure" signalling NAT traversal, even if the "rest" of outbound is not
used.

So, while I DO agree with the Vancouver(?) decission to not include any
"URI" keep parameter in the R-URI of the register request, I think we
shall we keep the URI "keep" parameter definition, and e.g. allow it to
be inserted into the Path header (I don't remember any discussions
regarding removing that possibility) by the outbound proxy, in order to
inform the UA that the outbound proxy supports STUN keep-alive.

(OR, there should be another mechanism for the outbound proxy to inform
the UA it supports STUN keep-alive)

That would allow people to start using outbound for NAT traversal, even
if the registrars haven't yet been updated to support outbound etc.

At one point we decided that we will keep the STUN keep-alive usage and
outbound in the same spec, but that we will describe the STUN keep-alive
usage as a "stand alone" function (chapter 8 of the draft). But, now you
have more or less "merged" the STUN keep-alive usage with the outbound
function, and that is bad.

Also, this change is not mentioned in the
changes-since-the-previous-version part (if it is mentioned, I
appologize for having missed it)

Regards,

Christer
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