Again, the burden is on the proponent of the new header to prove that a new header is needed when we apparently have headers that carries the same information, and more.
> -----Original Message----- > From: Hans Erik van Elburg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 02:43 > To: Audet, Francois (SC100:3055); Juha Heinanen; Christer Holmberg > Cc: sip@ietf.org; DOLLY, MARTIN C, ATTLABS > Subject: RE: [Sip] Comparison of retargeting proposals > > It is clearly not the same as History-Info header as has been > explained in the draft and in several previous threads. It > has also been explained why History-Info can not be used for > this as is. > > A simple new header with a clear semantics which provides a > clean solution to the problem is therefore not even > challenged by the History-Info header. Instead you should > argue why History-Info is so bloody good that we should use > it for this. We just learned that it is not even usable as a > diagnostic tool. > > Why carry a whole log of request URI rewrites around when you > are only interested in the current target??? > > /Hans Erik > > -----Original Message----- > From: Francois Audet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 6:18 PM > To: Hans Erik van Elburg; Juha Heinanen; Christer Holmberg > Cc: sip@ietf.org; DOLLY, MARTIN C, ATTLABS > Subject: RE: [Sip] Comparison of retargeting proposals > > Any addition of a new header that nobody can explain properly > why it's not the same as History-Info IS rocket science. > > It sounds like we are getting paid by the number of URI we > add to SIP. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Hans Erik van Elburg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 01:07 > > To: Audet, Francois (SC100:3055); Juha Heinanen; Christer Holmberg > > Cc: sip@ietf.org; DOLLY, MARTIN C, ATTLABS > > Subject: RE: [Sip] Comparison of retargeting proposals > > > > The point is that History-Info does not solve the problem > so something > > > new is needed anyway. > > > > And proper use of History-Info is rocket science as Dale has shown. > > > > /Hans Erik > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of > > Francois Audet > > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 2:16 AM > > To: Juha Heinanen; Christer Holmberg > > Cc: sip@ietf.org; DOLLY, MARTIN C, ATTLABS > > Subject: Re: [Sip] Comparison of retargeting proposals > > > > There are existing implementations of History-Info in the field. > > > > It's not rocket science. > > > > And I don't see why introducing something else will be simpler. It > > will just be extra complexity. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of > > > Juha Heinanen > > > Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 05:48 > > > To: Christer Holmberg > > > Cc: sip@ietf.org; DOLLY, MARTIN C, ATTLABS > > > Subject: Re: [Sip] Comparison of retargeting proposals > > > > > > Christer Holmberg writes: > > > > > > > However, I still fail to understand how Target would be more > > > "complex" > > > > than e.g. History-Info. > > > > > > christer, > > > > > > ANY solution for anything must be MUCH simpler than history-info, > > > which is far too complex by itself. > > > > > > i haven't seen anyone fully implement history-info and > most likely > > > that is because of its complexity. if you are now going > to invent > > > some other mechanism that is as complex or even more > > complex, it has > > > no change in real world. > > > > > > i therefore suggest that h-i is deprecated and a replaced > > by a simpler > > > > > mechanism. > > > > > > -- juha > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Sip mailing list https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip > > > This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol Use > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] for questions on current sip Use > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] for new developments on the application of sip > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sip mailing list https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip > > This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol Use > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] for questions on current sip Use > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] for new developments on the application of sip > > > _______________________________________________ Sip mailing list https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol Use [EMAIL PROTECTED] for questions on current sip Use [EMAIL PROTECTED] for new developments on the application of sip
