> Dan Wing wrote:
> > However, if you are communicating directly with another 
> > organization then you would not want to allow them to assert
> > any identity they wished, because the only identity you expect 
> > them to send you requests with a From that had their own 
> > identity (@microsoft.com, @boeing.com, etc.) -- that is, 
> > the identity of their own employees.  You do not expect them 
> > to assert the identity belonging to some other company.  You 
> > would not extend the transitive trust to them.
> > 
> > I do wish there was more interest in cryptographic end-to-end 
> > identity that survives through B2BUAs operated by service 
> > providers.  
> > It is the end goal; service provider B2BUAs/SBCs are not going 
> > away!
> 
> The sipsec URI 
> (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gurbani-sip-sipsec-01).
> Sorry could not resist ;-)

heh.  Yeah, I think SIP four-oh had a few ideas in that space,
too.

> Though that is not a panacea either since I doubt any B2BUA
> operated by the service provider will agree to behave as a
> transparent bit forwarder (although there are crypto-
> techniques to allow intermediaries to snoop in an encrypted
> stream to look only for certain keywords.  But I doubt that work
> is to a point that one can create a scalable production system
> out of it.)
> 
> There is also some work on using IBE (see
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kupwade-sip-iba-00); this draft
> was discussed on the list before the PHL IETF.  IIRC, the
> discussions centered around problems with key escrow.

There are also http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wing-sip-identity-media-02 and
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-fischer-sip-e2e-sec-media-00, both of which
propose slightly different techniques that are a middleground between sipsec
and (today's) blind transitive trust.

-d

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