On Jul 2, 2008, at 4:54 AM, Paul Kyzivat wrote:

  In both of these cases, the assurances of DTLS-SRTP provides in
  terms of data origin integrity and confidentiality are necessarily
  no better than SIP provides for signalling integrity when RFC 4474
  is used. Implementors should therefore take care not to indicate
  misleading peer identity information in the user interface.
  e.g. If the peer's identity is
  sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED], it is not sufficient to
  display that the identity of the peer is +17005551008. In cases
  where the UA can determine that the peer identity is clearly an
  E.164 number, it may be less confusing to simply identify the call
  as encrypted but to an unknown peer.

While I understand the logic above, it isn't very satisfying.
People are constructing sip based phone systems that must compete with traditional phone systems. If the sip based system shows no identity when a traditional system can display the identity of the same caller, then the sip system will be perceived and broken and non-competitive.

There will of course then be a temptation to do whatever is necessary to make the product competitive.

What about changing

it may be less confusing to simply identify the call
  as encrypted but to an unknown peer.

to

it may be less confusing to simply identify the call as encrypted but to an unknown peer or to identify the call as insecure and show only the 17005551008 portion of the peers identity.

I'm not sure if that is better or worse but it seems to be one of the few way we have to address the issue Paul raised.

Cullen <in my individual contributor roll>

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