Hi John;

 I understand for enterprise or SOHO, domain name itself
may give away who the caller is.

 We can add the text describing the implication of domain
name contained in the request for enterprise and SOHO
etc. And provide a workaround by using 3rd party Registrar
/ Proxy (anonymization service) OR we can suggest that
UA falls back to the use of privacy:header defined in
RFC3323, which doesn't ensure any assurance that you
get the privacy you desire but if there is a privacy service
along the signaling path sufficient privacy will be provided.

 I am content with suggesting the use of anonymization
service, but this will mean that depending on the call, UA
needs to distinguish the set of proxy/registrar to use based
on the user's intent/action (e.g. pushing anonymous button on the phone?).

 Any other suggestion for a workaround?

 Regards
  Shida

On 31-Jul-08, at 6:35 PM, Elwell, John wrote:

Mayumi,

-----Original Message-----
From: Mayumi Munakata [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 31 July 2008 13:28
To: Elwell, John
Cc: SIP IETF
Subject: Re: Comments on draft-ietf-sip-ua-privacy-02

John,

Thank you for the comments on ua-privacy draft.

See inline.

1. I think there should be something pointing out the
limitations of
GRUU for obtaining an anonymous contact URI.

Will add the text to mention it.

A temporary GRUU will still
reveal the issuing domain, i.e., the domain with which the user
registers. For the From URI we specify
sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(except where SIP Identity is used), but I don't see the
point in this
if Contact reveals the domain.

That's true.  There is no point to conceal the user's
domain name in the From header if the same domain name
appears in the Contact header.

However, there is an option to use a third-party GRUU server
to get a temp-gruu that doesn't reveal the use's domain name.

Anyway, the user's domain name is not considered as
critical privacy-sensitive information in this draft.
So it should be concealed only if that doesn't ruin more
important functions such as routing and authentication.
[JRE] As discussed at the meeting, for a small enterprise the domain
name is almost certainly critical. Somebody might guess the particular
caller, or maybe just knowing the name of the enterprise is information
you don't want to disclose. Even for a large enterprise, the caller
might be guessed if the callee only knows one person or a small number
of people from that enterprise. I would say that for an enterprise the
domain name is very likely to be critical privacy-sensitive information.
I agree that for a sizeable service provider it might not be critical.

John
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